Alt.religion.scientology Week in Review

Volume 9, Issue 29 - July 23 2005

Thank you, critics!

In response to "ARS Week in review, issue 26, july 16th, 2005" "Magoo" posted on July 18, 2005

"Wow! My 5th Anniversary began 5 years ago, today (July 16, 2000) when I was talking with Andreas, and my own personal Scio/Truman show was cracking in half. (I officially left I believe on the 19th, 2000).

Now......5 years later....I'm on TV on Inside Edition, speaking about Tom Cruise and Scientology.

Truly an amazing evolution, and a fantastic Anniversary gift :)
Thanks, Roger, and each person who has helped me in this rather long waking up process.

My love and greatest respect to all who help expose this insidious cult's abuses,



KPFK Show and more

On July 22, 2005, Chip Gallo posted:

"I am listening to this recording from KPFK Pacifica in LA and it is incredible to hear this radio broadcast.

It is the best 54 minutes you can spend with your computer.

I believe that criticism has reached critical mass (pun intended) and will explode in a volcano of truth.

My hats off to everyone involved in this!

The blurb on Mark Bunker's XENUTV site has this to say about the recording:

'Tom Cruise has opened up the floodgates.' So says the host of this Pacifica Radio Network program which features Tory Christman, Professor Dave Touretzky and Gerry Armstrong."


Radio Alvhymy with Tory, Gerry and Dr. Dave

Fresh from it's airing, here is the panel discussion from Pacifica Radio:

Good job everyone!



On July 17, M. Bunker posted:

"I've been told that should be covering Scientology tonight on the Mike Walker show from 6-9pm L.A. time. That show may not be streamed however. Anyone in the L.A who can tape off the air might want to try to archive the show.

Then on Tuesday, Mr. KABC is getting the grand tour of the Celebrity Center and sitting down to interview the president. Heber? Could we be getting a brand new slice of Heber goodness? That show might air Tuesday night and that show does stream on their website."

Then on July 18,

"A big thanks to Susan for recording last night's Mike Walker radio show. His guest was John Connor and they cover some good ground. Also the Mike Walker Players do a dramatic reading from Katie Holmes' W Magazine interview:

Oh, and Scientologists call in to say they do good work."


Another NEW radio show from Michael Leonard Tilse

"Michael was interviewed by Denny Schaffer last month on a local Toledo talk show. Well, when Schaffer later guest hosted a nationally syndicated show, he called Michael back for a second look at Scientology.

Here is that second show and a good one it is, too:

Congrats again to Michael for being one of the best at communicating on this involved subject."

"BTW, you have to hear the second half of this show which includes calls from a couple of Scientologists. Part of the middle of the show is missing but what is left is amazing. Listen to Sue tell the host that the facts sitting right in front of him are wrong! She knows the truth because she was told the 'truth' by Scientology.

What better example of how Scientology warps your mind.

Another caller points out that she was behaving exactly as Tom Cruise behaved with Matt Lauer. 'You don't know the truth. I know the truth.'"


Scientology bogged in Belgium

Edited from a googled translation of an article of 19/07/2005 from

Minister for Justice Laurette Onkelinx refused Scientology's request for recognition as a religion "in spite of requests from abroad in particular".

Added from Belgian daily De Standaard article by Filip Verhoest of July 20, 2005,,

"The Scientology movement will not be officially recognised as a religion in Belgium, and consequently won't be receiving any subsidies."

Minister Laurette Onkelinx "refused all contact" with Scientology since it is a cult, against which a criminal investigation for fraud is pending.

"A Dane" took issue with the statement from the Belgian daily:

"In Denmark, for instance, Scientology is a recognised religion."

and responded as follows to the news group:

"Scientology is NOT a recognised religion in Denmark, nor does it hold a licens[e]e to perform marriages in Denmark.

Official page per June 14, 2005 of recognised religions (first 11 listed) and groups with license to perform marriage in Denmark (the long list):"


German critic seeks office

Roger Gonnet posted a translation of a July 12, 2005 article from that a leading critic of Scientology is seeking public office in that country:

"Ursula Caberta campaigns for the PDS/WASG in the German Parliament - Officials want her transferred
by Jens Meyer-Wellmann

The Hamburg Senate's Scientology and Sect Commissioner, Ursula Caberta (WASG political party), might lose her job because of her political engagement. 'If Mrs. Caberta serves as a PDS candidate in the German Parliament, she will no longer be able to exploit her current position,' Interior Agency spokesman Marco Haase told the Abendblatt. 'We will then transfer her to a different position.' He said this had already been discussed with Caberta.

Background: In 2001, Caberta left the SPD political party and in 2004 she became a member of the 'Wahlalternative Arbeit und Soziale Gerechtigkeit' (WASG) political party. Before long the members voted her onto the Hamburg WASG management team. Caberta was treated as a top candidate for the Hamburg leftist party, for which reason she had to be put on the PDS's open list.

Because the PDS in Hamburg is under surveillance by the Office for the Protection of the Constitution, the people in the Interior Agency do not believe it advisable that Caberta, in the event she becomes a candidate, should be permitted to continue as the senior Scientology combatant for the CDU Senate. That would be grotesque, they say, as Scientology is also under surveillance by the Office for the Protection of the Constitution. However the officials have to avoid the impression that Caberta is being punished for her political engagement. By law, employees may not be put at a disadvantage because of their political engagement.

If Caberta goes to the German Parliament, then she will quit her post, otherwise she would like to go back to it. Whether they would agree to that, government spokesman Haase could not say. They would have to see how things go. ..."

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Russian sues cult for libel

On July 17, 2005 Roger Gonner posted a translation of a July 14th Russian article on a Novogorod Duma deputy who sued scientologists for libel:

"Veliky Novgorod Duma Deputy suing Scientologists for a million and one rubles

At 11 a.m. Moscow time on July 29, Veliky Novgorod Duma Deputy Alexander Deyna's lawsuit against the Scientologists will be examined in Novgorod city court. A Novgorodinform correspondent learned this in the press office of Novgorod region's Judicial Department.

In the deputy's opinion, Novgorod's 'Scientology & Dianetics Distribution Center' distributed false and disreputable information detrimental to his honor and dignity.

'The legal claim is 1,000,001 rubles, of which I plan on keeping a single ruble for myself, with the rest going to charity,' commented A. Deyna.

Furthermore, Alexander Deyna put an article in the 'Novoy Novgorodskoy Gazete,' in which the Scientologists were accused of being part of a 'satanic/demonic) doctrine,' for which he linked to an opinion of the Russian Orthodox Church.

July 14, 2005"

and commented:

"No change in scientology-dianetics since 1950: as soon as anyone says anything about their crime cult, they libel. Great to see that satanic cult is qualified as such from one 'side' of the planet to the next! Wait the 29th july now."

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Scientology bogged in Switzerland

Roger Gonnet posted that the Scientologists have now "lost five attempts to sue Jean-Luc Barbier in Swizerland."

He added that that Swiss judges have done more to allege Scientology was not a valid religion than any other country in the world

Another poster added:

"This is the page of Jean-Luc Barbier

The city of Delemont (State of Jura, Switzerland) does not allow Scientology within the city limits any more. The city of Basle (Switzerland) has forbidden proseletizing of sects on public grounds (verdict aims at Scientology ..."

Gonnet later posted:

"See in french the number of complaints that scientologists had deposed against Jean-Luc Barbier.

Most of these complaints have been dismissed during the Instruction.

Scientologists can yet make appeal."


Xenu making press

Dave Touretzky told of Scientology's public explanation of Xenu:

"This morning I was a guest on 'Religion on the Line', on WABC Radio in New York City. The hosts are Rabbi Joseph Potasnik, Vice President of the New York Board of Rabbis, and Father Paul Keenan, Director of Radio Ministry for the Archdiocese of New York. The topic was Scientology.

At one point, the hosts announced that they were going to have John Carmichael on in the next hour. Carmichael is the President of the Church of Scientology of New York. (He's also the DSA.) They asked me, what is the one question I would want John Carmichael to answer.

I said that I'd met John Carmichael, and they should not expect to get any straight answers out of him. But as to a specific question to ask: I said that Scientology spokespersons seem to be of two minds about Xenu. Sometimes they pretend they never heard of him. The church's national spokesman, Ed Parkin, did that just a few weeks ago. But sometimes they say, 'that's just a small part of our religion'. But if the goal of every Scientologist is to 'go OT', and the only way to do that is through Xenu, then how can it be just a small part of their religion?

Well, they got John Carmichael on, and I was wondering which tactic he would choose: deny, or minimize? John surprised everyone by choosing both! First he denied Xenu, saying he 'didn't exist'. But when the hosts said 'it's right there on this web site', he told them that they wouldn't understand it; that they would have to study it to understand. Without study it wouldn't make sense.

So there you have it. John first denies Xenu and then admits to Xenu. ..."


On July 17th, Roger Gonnet posted that Roland Rashleigh-Berry and Xenu were mentioned in a French article.


"It's the french translation of Xemu's document from Roland.

They took it here:"


From the New Haven Register - 07/17/2005 - Unraveling the mystery of what is Scientology


An eight-point cross, seen both on the wall and on ['Rev.' Carol] Yingling's necklace, symbolizes the stages of enlightenment.

At the eighth level, man's 'thetan,' or soul, can acknowledge an 'author of the universe,' said Yingling.

Along this path, practitioners learn that thetans were victims of mass interplanetary genocide propagated 75 million years ago by a ruler named Xenu.



Undercover in Scientology

From a 22 July 2005 article called "Weird Science" by Laurie Hanna found at:

a correspondent reported on going "undercover inside the disturbing world of Tom Cruise's church."


But what exactly is Scientology? A sinister, manipulative cult that claims life on Earth was created by aliens 75 million years ago? Or simply a group of committed believers on a mission to spread their message of peace?

To find out, I enrolled as one. What I discovered disturbed me and raises serious questions about how the church encourages the insecure and vulnerable to boost its growing ranks.


SCIENTOLOGIST Peter presses a book by the movement's founder, L Ron Hubbard, into my hand and says: 'This book can change your life.'

It is less than five minutes since I walked into the Church of Scientology's headquarters on Tottenham Court Road in London and I'm already feeling under pressure.

Peter tells me how I will achieve more in life because my mind will be cleared of anything negative. He invites me to take a stress test and gives me two metal handles to hold.

At intervals, a needle fluctuates wildly as my stress levels shoot up and Peter asks me what was on my mind. Each time I tell him I'm not sure.

He tells me many people contacted the church after the London bombings and many feel the need for reassurance.


I'm given a personality test with 200 questions. Some seem geared towards finding a weak spot in my character:

Could you agree to 'strict discipline'?

Would the idea of making a complete new start cause you much concern?

Do you sometimes wonder if anyone really cares about you?



Psychiatric responses to Scientology

From the July 20, 2005 edition of, "Catholic Psychiatrist 'Answers' Tom Cruise" by Matt C. Abbott:

"I asked Catholic psychiatrist William F. Woods, M.D., of Chesapeake, Va., about the recent controversy surrounding actor (and Church of Scientology member) Tom Cruise, who condemns psychiatry as a 'pseudo-science.' Woods gives the following response (slightly edited):

'In our day of fleeting images and snatches of sound, we often look to those among us who present some mixture of physical beauty and talent in order to fill a void created by our repugnance of the efforts needed to acquire deeper knowledge and understanding. Like most of us, I am more apt to notice this common human failing when it hits close to home.

'Thus, I shook my head more vigorously than usual when a well-known movie star pounced on my profession, psychiatry. This particular celebrity gave my medical specialty a thrashing and advocated Scientology as the way to health.


When we slide into the habit of judging an issue based mostly on the looks, sound and charm of its advocate, we are headed for trouble. 'This kind of trouble inflicts its gravest damage when mixed with religion.



From the July 21, 2005 Salt Lake Tribune article "Scientology isn't science":

"The 'Church of Scientology' is not a religion. It is a front for an anti-medical agenda. The United States Surgeon General's report on mental illness (January 1999) is a scientifically sound document, with many references, that makes three major points:

  1. Mental illness is a real biological problem,
  2. treatment works,
  3. therefore, get help.

Tom Cruise and other celebrities have been deceived by the 'church' into thinking that the Citizens Commission for Human Rights (a nice-sounding phrase invented by the “Church of Scientology”) is a good cause. This is incorrect. It just fuels continuing ignorance about the importance of recognizing and getting professional mental health care.

Meredith Alden, M.D.
Past president
Utah Psychiatric Association
Salt Lake City"


Expansion snag

From "Church of stars set for city" by Jon Griffin of the July 21 Evening Mail,

"THE controversial Church of Scientology, which numbers Tom Cruise and John Travolta amongst its followers, is looking for new regional headquarters in Birmingham.


The Church is seeking a large new regional base, which could employ several hundred people, for administrative and retail purposes. But the plan is likely to trigger fierce opposition from more established faiths.

The Church of England declined to comment today but In March 2004 the Diocese of Birmingham attacked the city council's decision to let the Scientologists launch its volunteer ministers' centre in Centenary Square.

Former diocesan spokesman Arun Arora said at the time that the Church, founded by science fiction writer L Ron Hubbard, was 'as much a religion as a dog is a vegetable'.


Graeme Wilson, the Church of Scientology's public affairs director, said: ... 'People are looking for solutions to life's problems, and Scientology offers solutions for pretty well all the problems that people commonly encounter.'"


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