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Alt.religion.scientology Week in Review

Volume 10, Issue 19 - May 13 2006


Mission Impossible III

A number of posts were made about MI-3 relating to "Cruise Crashes," "Paramount Panics" and "Ticket Tampering by the Cult".

On May 7, 2006 "David Germain" from the Associated Press Online posted:

LOS ANGELES - Fewer people chose to accept Tom Cruise's latest mission, a possible sign that the odd behavior of Hollywood's biggest star may have taken a toll on his box-office charm.

Paramount's "Mission: Impossible III" debuted with $48.025 million, a solid opening yet well below industry expectations and almost $10 million lower than the franchise's previous installment, according to studio estimates Sunday.

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Cruise's antics in the past year or so, publicity over his romance with Katie Holmes and the tabloid blitz regarding their daughter's birth in April may have left some movie-goers burned out or disenchanted with the actor.

[...]

Traditionally reserved about his private life, Cruise abruptly became an open book, jumping up and down on a couch while professing his love for Holmes in an interview with Oprah Winfrey and spouting his Scientology beliefs, including rants against psychiatry.

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Newsday reported:

http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/movies/la-fi-mission8may08,0,2821900.story

'Mission' Falls Short of Being Successful

The Tom Cruise film takes in $48 million in its opening weekend, far less than expected.

[...]

...Analyst Paul Dergarabedian of Exhibitor Relations Co. said the film could have been hurt by the distraction of Cruise's off-screen antics. Cruise's public life has been on display for the last year as he promotes the Scientology religion, and while he romanced actress Katie Holmes, who recently gave birth to their daughter.

"The only thing competing for attention in the marketplace was all the talk about Cruise's public persona," Dergarabedian said. "It's hard to ever know why a film fails to live up to expectations, but in this case you can't fault the marketing campaign. The reasons lie elsewhere."

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From the Box Office Prophets:

http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/column/index.cfm?columnID=9553

[...]

Kim Hollis: We're talking about three million fewer people that went to see III versus I and over three million that saw III versus II. That's a pathetic downturn.

David Mumpower: That three million in ticket sales may be partially explained (say 50%) by a changing marketplace and some questionable marketing. The rest is all on You Know Who. For legal purposes, BOP would like to state that it believes Tom Cruise's behavior is normal and rational

Tim Briody: I never thought one man's descent into dementia would be worth so much bank at the box office.

Kim Hollis: Addressing the elephant in the living room, is North America offering an indictment of Tom Cruise?

Joel Corcoran: Absolutely and without a doubt, yes.

David Mumpower: Make no mistake on the point. North America has just given Tom Cruise a code red. Even Colonel Jessep would be impressed by the hostility exhibited by this.

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From Deadline Hollywood Daily:

[long link]

Unusual MI3 Ticket Sales at Hollywood ArcLight Near Scientology Celeb Center
by Nikki Finke
Deadline Hollywood Daily

I have confirmed today that there has been an unusual pattern of ticket sales for Tom Cruise's Mission Impossible 3 at Hollywood's ArcLight Theater, which just happens to be located right near the Church of Scientology Celebrity Center where Cruise belongs. Unconfirmed anecdotes are circulating on the Internet this weekend of individuals buying hundreds of tickets at a time from the ArcLight. But an ArcLight employee did confirm to me just now that "people have been buying dozens of tickets at a time" for MI3, which is definitely an extraordinary sales pattern for the movie theater (or any theater, for that matter). Certainly, the "M" word -- for manipulation -- comes to mind.

Meanwhile, MI3's opening weekend is near-disastrous. See UPDATED: MI3 Opening Weekend Freefall. Cruise's Fault, Hollywood Players Tell Me.

http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/mi3-box-office-disappoints-cruises-fault/

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"David Barnes" posted:

Well does this remind anyone else of those reports that Church members going into bookstores and buying massive quantities of Dianetics?

History repeats itself.....

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"Arnaldo Lerma" posted:

Yes, it is a pattern opf conduct for scientology

http://www.lermanet.com/mi3-ticket-manipulation.html

Manipulation of Mission Impossible Ticket Sales

Report of one person buying 500 tickets to Premier of MI3!

http://www.perezhilton.com/topics/t...on_20060506.php

I have confirmed today that there has been an unusual pattern of ticket sales for Tom Cruise's Mission Impossible 3 at Hollywood's ArcLight Theater, which just happens to be located right near the Church of Scientology Celebrity Center where Cruise belongs. Unconfirmed anecdotes are circulating on the Internet this weekend of individuals buying hundreds of tickets at a time from the ArcLight. But an ArcLight employee did confirm to me just now that "people have been buying dozens of tickets at a time" for MI3, which is definitely an extraordinary sales pattern for the movie theater (or any theater, for that matter). Certainly, the "M" word -- for manipulation -- comes to mind.

LINK

And if the above were true, then the following makes perfect sense...unless of course you are a Scientologist, and then it is "all lies"

'Mission' Fizzling? Box Office Imploding

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,194537,00.html

Friday night's numbers are in for "Mission: Impossible III," and they aren't what Paramount or Tom Cruise might have hoped for. The JJ Abrams-directed blockbuster took in only $17 million according to website www.boxofficemojo.com. That's a good $3 million off the lowest predictions, and $8 million off what a real mega hit would have been.

Box Office Mojo's Brandon Gray says that the weekend total should now be in the $45 million range. It's not a catastrophe by any means, but it does show that star Tom Cruise's public persona and negative publicity plus a raft of mediocre reviews for the film have put a dent in his plans to rule the universe.

Grays says the new "Mission" numbers are a disappointment because both installments 1 and 2 did much better. "They each sold around 50 percent more tickets on their opening weekends (Friday-Sunday)," Gray says, "despite opening on Wednesdays."

At this rate, Cruise may want some kind of pharmacological drug to ease the pain on Sunday night. Paramount execs definitely will.

Previous Manipulations by Scientology

April 2005 - The parade.com survey - after the April article about Tom Cruise, the survey early monday morning after the article, said that 85% (85/15) of the public thought that the media was responsible for tom cruise's troubles! Scientology even had the nerve to send out an early morning press release promoting this "fact".. Later that same day, on monday, the statistics moved to 65%, 65/35, and then they rapidly moved back towards 85/15! Here is what parade had to say:

American magazine Parade has rejected the results of an opinion poll on its site after they grew very suspicious of the results.

[...]

Well, Parade's publicist told Pagesix.com "We at Parade found this a little bit fishy, so we did some investigating. We found out more than 14,000 of the 18,000-plus votes that came in were cast from only 10 computers!

Scientology's Millenium New Years Eve hoedown:
Scientology fills in empty seats to make the place looked packed.. The the attendance in the MAN with NO HEAD story,

Endless lies about having 8 million members (actually 55,000 in US).

Manipulating Booksales figures:
A terrific newspaper article documenting scientology's PATTERN OF CONDUCT of buying its own books is HERE - HUBBARD HOT-AUTHOR STATUS CALLED ILLUSION"."

[...]

The PATTERN OF CONDUCT regarding MI3 is also the same, with current newstorys about MI3 includes stories of people buying 500 tickets to the premiere of MI3.

Of course, such a PATTERN OF CONDUCT is not extraordinary from a group that believes in XENU!

"Scientologists believe that most human problems can be traced to lingering spirits of an extraterrestrial people massacred by their ruler, Xenu, over 75 million years ago." US Federal Judge Leonie Brinkema RTC (Scientology) vs Lerma

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From the Huffington Post:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nora-ephron/disaster-picture_b_20687.html

Disaster Picture

The sound of a zillion exhalations you're hearing from Hollywood this week is not the result of the Pellicano Affair but instead a wave of genuine happiness, the kind Hollywood is best at -- the kind that comes at someone else's expense but so what? Hollywood is happy. Tom Cruise is down.

Just how down remains to be seen, because there's nothing like third-world-country box-office to lift things to a spinnable level. But meanwhile Mission Impossible III has opened to $48 million, a "disappointing" figure, less than Mission Impossible II, and there's almost no one in Los Angeles who can't gleefully add all sorts of additional facts to help a hapless listener absorb the full significance of all this: MI III opened in more theatres, with higher ticket prices, and still came nowhere near the opening weekend of its predecessor. On top of this, Cruise's core audience, that quadrant of moviegoers known as younger females, stayed away "in droves."

Cruise is not a particularly interesting human being, but it's been riveting to watch him bully the movie industry in recent years, and to watch the industry roll over and play dead when he demanded, for example, that a Scientology Tent be erected next to the set of War of the Worlds. There's no precedent for anything of this sort, it's inexcusable, it's unacceptable; large American corporations do not set up a denominational churches on company premises. But after a certain amount of pretend-posturing, Paramount and Dreamworks/Universal gave in and Cruise got his tent, staffed with Thetan facilitators who were ready to give neckrubs and literature to any passerby who wandered in thinking the place was a snack bar.

Then of course came the Katie Holmes romance, with the adolescent instant messages and cell-phone photos Cruise sent out to friends within days of their first date, the manic couch-jumping on Oprah, the Elmer-Gantry-like confrontation with Matt Lauer, and the coup de grace, self-administered - Cruise's attack on psychology, anti-depressant drugs and Brooke Shields' post-partum depression.

My son Jacob off-handedly pointed out to me this week that Cruise has now become the new Michael Jackson, a weirdo, an all-purpose piņata, the freak celebrity that everyone concedes is crazy, a poster boy for career immolation, a bizarre case of arrested-development, a man still playing with childhood toys. And compounding this, of course - as they compound everything these days - are the blogs.

[...]

All this, combined with the reported chilliness of Holmes' parents to Scientology and the increasing evidence that Holmes had become a Pod Person, turned the episode into a contemporary version of Rosemary's Baby. Longtime rumors about Cruise's sexuality were even printed in the New York Times. And Cruise himself didn't help matters. His appearance with Diane Sawyer didn't have an authentic moment, and I recommend it for his bizarrely calm reaction to Sawyer's asking him whether he was in fact the father of Holmes' baby.

It all adds up to an ideal disaster. As the writer Martin Cruz Smith once said in another context, it's like driving past a terrible automobile accident in which no one has been hurt. Except for Tom Cruise, of course, but for the moment, and thanks to him, he doesn't count.

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German View of Scientology

On May 8, 2006 a link to the German Embassy in Washington D.C. was posted:

http://www.germany.info/relaunch/info/archives/background/scientology.html

Background Papers

Scientology and Germany

Understanding the German View of Scientology

The German government considers the Scientology organization a commercial enterprise with a history of taking advantage of vulnerable individuals and an extreme dislike of any criticism. The government is also concerned that the organization's totalitarian structure and methods may pose a risk to Germany's democratic society. Several kinds of evidence have influenced this view of Scientology, including the organization's activities in the United States.

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Polish Scientologists Ordered to Remove Tents

On May 12, 2006 "Maquis" posted:

Newsweek, again, writes that the widely hailed inauguration of the scientology sect in Poland had a false start. No sooner had they played Armstrong's "What a Wonderful World" when the Warsaw city guards ordered the scientologists to remove their three yellow tents put up in the city centre.

The order came from the city authorities, who were worried by press reports of scientology, regarded as a dangerous sect in many countries. Its representatives had to hastily rent a room in a nearby hotel to continue the inauguration event. But despite energetic campaigning conducted by scientology volunteers in the streets, only several dozen people were interested enough to attend it. "

http://www.polskieradio.pl/polonia/article.asp?tId=36454&j=2
The radicalism test
12.05.06

Poland's reforming government and its discontents; the 'exotic trio' who are in the top three positions in the new coalition government; Polish doctors hit the bottle; and Scientologists in Warsaw are just some of the stories in this week's current affairs magazines. "

Reviewed by Krysia Kolosowska "
off topic/snipped

Polskie Radio (English Section)
http://www.polskieradio.pl/polonia/gb/

...Mq

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News from Ukraine Part Four

On May 12, 2006 "Roger Gonnet" posted:

[Ukraine, the entire article is now webbed!]
See:
www.antisectes.net/ukraine-2006.html

[Ukraine, the fourth part of the lengthy article on scientology]

Ukraine

How Much Happiness would you like for Your Money
by Taras Pano
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translated from Russian text at
Zerkalo-Nedeli.com
April 8, 2006

[...]

Vitaliy Konstantinov, psychiatrist

- Could Dianetics be used for the treatment of mental illness or as a method of psychological correction?

-- Dianetics categorically cannot be used to treat mental illness as that requires, first of all, medicament intervention. At the present stage of the development of medical science pharmacotherapy is yielding the best results. Unfortunately, in my practice cases have not been observed in which serious mental illness has been cured without drugs.

As to using Dianetics for psychological correction, I give preference to academic psychotherapy as the most justified for attaining prolonged remission (improved state of health) for patients. The positive results that Dianetics promises those under its care could have only a temporary effect. Afterwards a worse condition ensues, and sometimes a course of illness. The desired "state of clear" is attained by extremely inaccurate and destructive methods that, for the person involved, hide the way to genuine recovery. They've made commerce out of this science, and that might explain its popularity. Every individual would like to attain the perfect "state of clear" and have uncommon abilities but, alas, this is impossible. Because often in the mentality of a person one quality predominates while others are lacking, and this gives an impulse to development. For example, often a person, who is in the medical profession, does not himself know what to study to sort out his personal problems. I would advise selcting a specialist who uses time-proven methods of psychological correction.

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The Church of Scientology appeared in the United States of America under science fiction writer Lafayette Ronald Hubbard after the release of his book, "Dianetics: the Modern Science of Mental Health" (1950) and consolidated by admirers of the self-improvement methods Hubbard made up. The Church of Scientology was founded in 1954.

In the system of Scientology practices Dianetics is a method or technology of Scientology. It proceeds from the assertion that the human mind fixes on and conceals recordings of trauma (engrams), the aggregate of which is the "reactive mind," as though this was the reason for all problems in life, mental as well as physical. By applying the technology of Dianetics it is alleged to be possible to rid oneself of these traumata and attain a state of "clear" and to fully uncover one's potential.

Dianetics includes auditing, a face-to-face discussion between "preclear" and auditor in which engrams are located with the help of an "electropsychometer" ("e-meter"). Engrams are supposed to disappear as a result of successful auditing. After clearing away all the engrams the person supposedly turns "clear" and can continue self-improvement and be freed from the restrictions of the material world up to the state of "operating thetan."

A believer's position in the church hierarchy proceeds from the level of advancement. Each step has improvement courses that have to be learned to proceed on to the next step.

The rites and ceremonies of the Scientologists, in expert opinion, most resemble those of Christianity -- services once a week with a sermon, reading of the "creed" and group auditing. There are also rituals for weddings, naming babies, funerals and ordinations that are conducted by chaplains or Scientology ministers.

Scientologist holidays are: L. R. Hubbard's birthday, a day giving thanks to the clergy, the day the "Dianetics" book was released, the day the IRS recognized Scientology as religion and the day the International Association of Scientologists was created.

[...]

Besides the Church of Scientology there is also the so-called "Free Zone of Scientology" (also known as "Ron's Organizations," whose members do not identify themselves with the official church of Scientology, but who practice Dianetics and Scientology in life and in business. Members of this movement do not regard Hubbard's teachings as religious. They use the technology as training to develop human ability and business organization.

The Church of Scientology acts through Dianetics centers (which appear as profit, non-profit or religious organizations), through social organizations and movements, and also as Narconon, Criminon, the World Institute of Scientology Enterprises, a Commission to promote "Psychiatry against human rights" and the Association to study life and education.

Ukraine has an official Church of Scientology as well as "Free Zone" organizations. Scientology is widespread throughout Ukraine in Dianetics Centers in Kiev, Kharkov, Kremenchug and Kherson. According to expert estimates more than 50 centers operate in Ukraine. In 2004 the Church of Scientology tried to register its religious community in Kiev but was refused.

Specialists from the department of religious studies of G. Skovorody Institute of Philosophy NAS Ukraine wrote a conclusion (published in the "Scientology in Ukraine" brochure) about the activities of the Church of Scientology. The experts considered that Scientology centers could be fully considered religious communities whose operations do not contradict Ukraine legislation. The research, signed by respected religious studies experts, contains a number of contradictions and, according to a clarification by religious studies department director A. Kolodny, cannot be considered definitive for making a decision about the registration of the Church of Scientology as a religious organization in Ukraine.

Doubt about the advisability of registration of Scientologist communities as religious organizations are evoked mainly by the activities of the church, which critics view as commercial, and by a large number of lawsuits Scientology has been and still is engaged in Europe and America. Governments of various countries have periodically begun to doubt that Scientology can be regarded as religious but some Scientology communities do not have to pay taxes.

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Thanks again to the very good translator!

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Critic Threatened by Scientology

On May 12, 2006 "Barbara Graham" posted:

I got this email today from a relative:

"Hi Barb,
We rec'd a strange call this afternoon. Luckily xxxx let it go to voicemail. Some man said he was calling for an xxxx or xxxx xxxx, and that he was an investigator looking into the terrorist activities of a girl named Barbara Graham. (no identification given) He said he would really like to talk with us, and asked for us to call. He didn't leave a number... He then repeated his request for us to call (with no number), and hung up..."

No phone number? Can you say "noisy investigation?"
Unlike the "investigator" cruising around my parents' neighborhood last week, Scientology wasn't mentioned.

Cult, if you think this is going to work like it did with Keith Henson, think again. I am going to collect statements I asked my folks' neighbors to write up, along with this email, and pay the nice detectives at the Criminal Intelligence Unit a call. They asked me to document any sort of harassment from your sorry asses, and I've been too lax.

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LA Picket Reports

Picket reports from May 6, 2006 in Los Angeles, California:

[Thanks Dave, Barb, Jeff, Mark, Feisty--Goonybird, and All else who picketed!]

This was one rockin day!

I really appreciate all that each of you did to make this such a successful two pickets :)

((Dave helped on the back lines, just for the record, and that is always appreciated!)) You don't have to be at a picket to help out on one....FYI.

Tory/Magoo Dancing in the moonlight

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From the Operation Clambake Forum:

http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?t=18287

Scientology - it's worse than you think

I'mglib wrote:

So, I'm back from my first ever picket and it was awesome. Yes, awesome.

I got to meet Tory and some other great people, who also have very healthy senses of humor, but more on that later.

First we arrived at Sherrif Baca's Office, which was unfortunately behind a gate, so we stood on a busy street with our signs. One good sign said BACA, CULT SHILL in huge letters on flourescent colored paper. People honked and waved, and then after 1 hour we packed up to go to Hollywood.

We arrived in Hollywood at the Scn building, and Xenu prepared his costume. Yes, Xenu was there. We were on a side street getting ready, when the security guard discovered us (they're quick). Someone else had a giant pole with something like 8-10 blowup Xenu dolls on it. I had my famous "Ten Reasons You Should Run Away Screaming From Scientology" flyer. The security guard turned back and went back to the building.

On the corner of Hollywood and Ivar we proceded to wave our signs and hand out flyers. The response was a lot of horn honking and head nodding from the cars and passers by. My sign said "SCIENTOLOGY, IT'S WORSE THAN YOU THINK" (borrowed from Arnie), and Tory's said "HONK IF YOU DON'T THINK YOU ARE INFESTED BY SPACE ALIENS." I also had a NARCONON=SCIENTOLOGY, and my own green Xenu doll, so I was pretty loaded down.

Then, there on the corner, stood Xenu, waving like the queen of the Rose Parade. People were laughing a pointing. I went up and handed a women a flyer through her open window, and she came back later asking for more.

Tory immediately got cornered by some current Scinos, and I think she knew some of them. Some people tried to ask me things like, "Why are you here?" "Has Scn hurt you personally?" To this second question I said, "So you're only against things that hurt you personally? That's pretty selfish." And, "I'm exercising my right to free speech." I kinda took my cues from some of the old timers who kept it low key ("It's better to make ourselves look as different as possible than the Scientologists.") and tried not to get engaged or angry because it's probably futile, and time is better spent handing out flyers.

The secrurity guard kept walking back and forth, talking on his radio. At one point he took our pictures. He had on a very official-looking, black uniform, with this belt that had about six different things in the pouches. I figured one was a flashlight, and my husband suggested that maybe the others held batteries.

Some Sea Org people walked by, and to their credit, they ignored us. I felt bad for them because here it was Saturday night in Hollywood, and they were working. They were pretty young, too, and wore white shirts and black Dickie pants. A guy who worked around the corner came by and said that the SCn building is open 24 hours.

Xenutv showed up, so maybe some of this will show up on Xenutv.com

After an hour or so we packed it in. I took a tour of Melrose and Robertson to see what the rich and famous were doing, and got an excellent bowl of corn chowder to go from Barefoot on 3rd street. It's the best corn chowder ever. Good times.

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I had a few more observations that I forgot to mention:

1. When we first got there, the Sea Org drapes were open, but within minutes they were closed.

2. As we were leaving with Xenu and the signs and the blow up dolls, a tour bus went by (double decker with the people on top out in the open). The bus driver slowed down to talk to us, and we chatted about Xenu. We gave him a blowup doll and a bunch of flyers, and he seemed happy about that.

3. Tory is as nice in person as she is on this message board.

4. I almost wish I had talked more to the Scinos who approached us. The little I did talk to them, I was surprised at how little they knew, and how poor their debating skills were.

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magoo1 wrote:

This was a terrific two pickets!

First, meeting the people from Leona Valley, and learning their story, and how on top of Narconon infesting their neighborhood they are, was really cool. As I'm Glib said, it was fun for all of us to meet. :wink:

And Jeff showed up in his Dr's outfit with his name, "Dr. Fake". He's perfect for the Dr role!!

All of us were quite surprised at how many people on this little frontage road were honking and waiving....but they were! We all picketed there for I'd say an hour, and then we moved onto Hollywood, as has been posted.

We'd met previously at the Sizzler, and that is always fun for us to do. It's sort of a tradition for the gang to meet before hand, and then go picket. Gooneybird also showed up, someone we hadn't seen in 2 years!

Xenu had arrived at my house in droves on Friday, and Freisty was the master mind of this! She put a bunch of them on dowels....so she could carry more than one. They were a hit for tons of people! :wink:

My sign wasn't about Space aliens, it says: "Honk if you Think Scientology is a CULT". Tons and Tons of people honked while we were picketing. Many wanted their pictures taken with either Xenu or me, or Dr. Fake! Mark Bunker arrived, hooked me up with a mike, and we'll see how that turns out. Barb also was there dressed up as a live XENU, and many wanted to get their pics taken with Xenu.

I had a rather long conversation with two "OT's" who were there to "handle" us. The wife, although pretty fake, was at least willing to communicate some. Her husband looked at me and said, "You're a wacko". I said first of all I wanted to congratulate his wife, as at LEAST she could, to some degree, apply the very basics of Scientology: Communication. He, one the other hand, totally violated the basics of Scientology and IS why many people are out there criticising their 'church'. I pointed out to him that he didn't even know me, that someone had put that black pr line into his head, and it's that kind of abuse (Fair Game and Scientology's attempts to silence people) that people around the world are standing up fighting them for, and shall do so until they stop. I think he began to see what I was talking about, as people continued to honk while we talked.

From that point, he got nicer, and was more willing to talk. We taked about quite a bit, and we'll see if it sticks in his head or not. I asked both of them, once they'd heard that OSA has up 5 P A G E S of flat out lies about me, IF they were going to do anything about that? Neither would commit to even trying. She tried to promote her Wins, as I had done in the past, and I told her I was just like her 5 years ago. But SEEING Such abuse, I got to a point where I couldn't just do nothing. She tried to slide off of that. I told his wife the bottom line is: "How do you know if a Scientologist is lying? If their lips are moving!" ( She said Scientologists don't lie, yet here they were, ignoring that their "Church" posts flat out lies about people---and trying to slide off with the "We don't know". Ya...right).

As the day wound down, we began to walk up the street. To our great surprise, tons of Sea Org came marching across the street. Of course Feisty had the Xenu dolls, and we both suggested they don't waste their lives. They hussled on by, and we left to come home for a delightful party here at my house.

I'm Glib....next time you'll have to drop by! We had some fun discussions after. Same for Gooney, who had to go home, too.

All in all, it was a terrific day, and now we're having a slumber party!!!

Happiness is doing what you want to do, and enjoying it! :wink:

:cheers:

My best to all,

Tory/Magoo

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"Feisty" posted:

So many places to protest, not enough hours in the day!

We met on Saturday May 6, 2006 to protest, originally because the dianetics anniversary which is/was today, May 9. Due to other recent concerns and citizens interested to stand up, we gathered to support activists in Leona Valley to protest Sheriff Baca's cult connection to endorse Narconon. We then picketed by the LRH Museum on Hollywood and Ivar. We unfortunately missed picketing at the Arc Light Theatre during the opening night of Mission Impossible 3, although we had the best of intentions to try. (We are only human!) To all of our surprise, the Arc Light has come up with its own protest of "numbers" after the weekend, the signs of a desperate cult. The fallacy of trying to inflate numbers, even if successfully done without notice, does nothing to help make $cientology look important. This is only a feeble try to cover the big league sales tactics and failing PR ech of head spokeperson and salesman for the cult, Tom Cruise.

We started off in the usual tradition by meeting at the Sizzler at noon. Had a bite to eat and headed out to the Los Angeles County Sheriff's facility on Ramona Blvd. to protest Sheriff Leroy Baca's endorsement of the Narconon program.

Tory, Jeff, Barb and I arrived and were met by three other other residents of Leona Valley, a new picketer, and later by two others. We received many honks, but due to the road being situated right near the front of the complex of buildings, foot traffic was slow. Hoewever our protest was successful. I made a sign that said "Baca Way from $cientology - Not our taxpayer dollars" with the url: http://Stop-Narconon.com/Baca Others had some good signs too, with Jeff Jacobsen's fluorescent sign the best to view from afar.

We learned alot of things that the cult had been up to in Leona Valley, and basically $cientology came into a relatively small town with big PR tactics.

The isolation of Sheriff Baca, bussing in $cientologists to meetings and fixed letter writing campaigns, strong-arming the local paper with Narconon ads and celebrity attention is all a part of the show to look like something it is not. The scales of concensus are repeatedly fixed with a faux set of actors who cannot take away the voice of the taxpayers and those who know that an endorsement here means a stepping stone somewhere else. It is a feudal, not fair.

It is encouraging that another meeting will be held in July for some of the facts to be reviewed. This is why it is so important to realize that paying taxes does give you the right to speak up and question and add information that $cientology leaves out or fraudulently publishes. Getting such a scam approved only means funding for programs that have to do with criminal reentry programs or others similar. Their job is to avoid review, and lessen people who can bring a fair concensus. The process is fixed and corrupt. Not if the residents of Leona Valley keep doing such a good job, and all of us keep writing.

(back to the picket...)

After an hour, we moved on to the L Ron Hubbard Life Museum at Hollywood and Ivar, across from the Sea Organization headquarters. Within minutes of arriving, the curtains on the top floor of the Sea Org bldg. were closed.

I had my hands full of space aliens, so someone else carried my sign. It said, "Tom Cruise Censors Space Aliens, Watch South Park - Save $400,000 and with http://www.Xenu.net up in the corner. I did have colorful http://www.Lermanet.com flyers that covered Isaac Hayes leaving South Park, and Tom Cruises further censorship of the rebroadcast of Episode 912 - Trapped in the Closet with the Xenu Story. I passed out every one of the 100 I brought.

Xenu stood regally at the corner of Hollywood and Ivar and drew quite a crowd. Many knew who Xenu is and several families with kids and others stopped to take pictures. I held a frame with five inflatable aliens, as a tribute to Dianetics day, and as a testament to what is on the cover of the book. The honest truth is that this is a consumer issue, a bait and switch ruse that everyone should know. "You are not infested with space aliens! We just saved you $400,000 dollars!" It is every taxpayers right to bring this issue to the forefront and bridge the gap between the bad alternative health advice, and what really is behind all those human problems.

So Xenu and the clusters of space aliens were there to commemorate and stand where they belonged - by the founder who created the implant station for this cruel con game that takes peoples money and mind - L Ron Hubbard. The building should appropriately be named, "The space opera building" (Some who think we were selling the aliens may have a good idea, as every carnival has its props and it's not surreal that this would be where Xenu belongs all the time.) Colorful aliens much cheaper!

Jeff was dressed appropriately as "Dr. Fake," the perfect role considering Tom Cruises giving advice about pregnancy and post partum one day, and chugging oil the next. Would you take advice from Dr. Fake? The statement Jeff's attire made covered many of $cientology's deadly quack teachings - fake claims of curing, the treatment and demise of Lisa McPherson and others; the list goes on and on.

The amount of handlers here was more than I have seen during the time I have protested, about seven at one point. Obvious jobs: take pictures to put in the massive database of information $cientology keeps. Identify who the people are. Ask what their motive is, and what organization then represent. I've never attended a protest where they did not do this, yet it is always interesting to see how each member adapts to this virulent practice. This is what they got into $cientology for?

This is obviously something that they must brief members on, who come out to handle someone based on crude and dishonest information. "Those people out there" must be really bad for some reason.

Some of the members tried to engage us in conversation. This is about as effective as doing this on ars, and shows the same lack of logical means to debate. Face to face however is quite an observation, to see how $cientology members are "all in their head" - or how the tech is talking and the ears are closed. The idea is not for them to understand what you are saying, as much as they are trying to get you into answering to L Ron Hubbards line of questioning, or - thinking the way they are! The built in stance in which they are so individually claiming to be speaking from includes having to have you convert to the way they are thinking. It's built into the responses they give, and is quite bizarre. This lacks debate totally and is a very indicative of the language skills they are trained with. The dialogue is repetitive and so old, very narrow and includes giving you every reason to respond in the way they expect, the entrapping and subversive cult think... It is not intimidating to talk to these members, it is just about talking plainly, avoiding these communicative traps, and get them thinking about something in a normal way if even for a while.

Tory is the best person I have ever heard communicating to members who have come out to address picketers. She knows just where the problem lies in the limitations of what these members are allowed to say when they come out to talk. She knows, she has been there. The main point is that they are not practicing what they learned if they cannot think about something another person says. And for the short time she addressed this one gentleman who came out, you can see that he stopped a few times to think. There were a few brief moments of exchange to this gentleman where what Tory said sunk. That they can read something else or hear something else is a major breakthrough that really allows people to be free. The flipside of that is seeing what I described as talking with the ears closed, and surely depriving of ones freedom of speech. I never forget what Tory says to members and it is so true, "if Hubbard said you are so free then why can't you read other things or talk to me?"

It was odd to hear the ECT story from this same gentleman Tory talked to. I asked, "what book or information have you been given," because he spoke as if it were happening so excessively, "right now." I told him it was pretty rare these days, and he started making "whoa ho ho ho" noises as if I were misinformed. You could see the level of hysteria from teaching such things are in fact, excessive. Others came from Leona Valley and Goonybird and a new picketer were there talking to members and the many people walking by.

I walked across the street to the HELP Hollywood Education Literacy Project because I saw some mothers and children leaving. The children smiled at all the colorful space aliens and asked for one, so I gave one to each of the two families. (I gave away 10 at least) The mothers said that the kids were receiving tutoring there, and I told them that although they think their children are receiving some attention, they should beware that the method used is the study technology of $cientology and that the children would be learning the language that L Ron Hubbard taught. They said they would look on the internet and read about it.

It was odd to see the uniformed sea org members march by in double lines from the sea org building to the museum and then later back to the sea org facility. They were mostly young adults, good looking kids who should be out enjoying life. Tory and I told them to leave as they walked by, amongst other things.

Mark Bunker was there to interview and film the protest at the "Space Opera Building" and did a great job.

http://www.xenutv.com/pickets/hollywood-baca.htm

After the picket we went to Tory's house for a gathering of picketers and other guests. We enjoyed some good food and conversation. Several people called in from all over, and the phone was passed around so we could all say hello. Keith Henson called too for a brief chat even though he had been busy talking to the people at the International Space Development Conference.

I took the next day to drive over to Ida Camburn's house where we spent a pleasant afternoon talking about the picket and reminisced about all the people who had passed her way over the years. We even attended a singalong at the local club which was entirely relaxing after a busy day. I am grateful to know Ida and everyone I have met who care to stand up for our Constitutional right to freedom of speech and the right to assemble.

After driving through the mountains and a little jet lag,

Feisty

Get Up, Stand Up, stand up for your right

Jeff Jacobsen's pictures from the protests
http://www.lisamcpherson.org/la_picket_06.htm

Scientology and Historic Buildings - Like Hitler and the Third Reich
http://www.lermanet.com/scientology-and-occult/historic-building.htm

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"Mark Bunker" posted:

Dr. Fake brings his quackery to the L. Ron Hubbard Life Exhibitiion in Hollywood. Xenu, Feisty and another lovely lady share in the fun. Plus, Tory gets in comm with a handler who can't believe Hubbard had Vistiril in his butt:

http://www.xenutv.com/pickets/hollywood-baca.htm

Enjoy!

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"Jeff Jacobsen" posted:

Had a great time.

[photos from LA picket]

http://www.lisamcpherson.org/la_picket_06.htm

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"Arnaldo Lerma" posted:

THIS IS GREAT!

This is the best training video for bringing a true believer to doubt I have ever seen!

Thank you Tory!

Hubbard's coroner report with the PROOF he died with the anti psytchotic medication VISTARIl in his bloodstream is linked from a page crafted by michael tilse for exiting current members - his letter is the written equivalent to Tory's verbal effort.

http://www.lermanet.com/scientology/dear-scientologist.htm

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Scientology "Cruising" for money in D.C.

On May 7, 2006 MSNBC reported:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/12684262/

Scientology spreads out in push for D.C. members
By Erin Killian
Washington Business Journal

Jackson Wyan, a young Tom Cruise look-alike with short black hair and a black button-down shirt, greets people with laser-focused eye contact, a fixed smile and solid handshake at the Founding Church of Scientology of D.C. in Dupont Circle.

His mission not-so-impossible: Recruit more members.

Would-be Scientologists approach the landmark red building, also known as Fraser Mansion, at 20th and R streets NW, with regularity. Wyan, who's been with the D.C. church six years, gives tours that include a sweep through the first-floor library full of founder L. Ron Hubbard's writings and a basement recruitment center with free stress tests.

So many curious Scientology seekers take Wyan's tours that the church, which has occupied the high-profile site for a decade, says it can no longer handle the traffic at the 22,000-square-foot building -- so it's tripling its size in D.C. with new offices.

By the end of the year, most of the 100-member staff will move into a 50,000-square-foot building at 16th and P streets NW.

The Church of Scientology Religious Trust, a sister organization, bought a seven-story building at 1424 16th St. NW for $17.3 million from Castleton Holdings in November. The Staubach Co. real estate firm helped with the purchase, one of 22 properties the trust bought last year.

The Founding Church of Scientology of D.C. is leasing the space and plans to infuse $5 million into a renovation that includes a 500-seat auditorium and rooftop cafe once it obtains its permits. With the move and a refurbished Fraser Mansion, D.C. will have the third-largest collection of Scientologist facilities in the nation, in terms of square footage, behind Los Angeles and Clearwater, Fla.

[...]

Wyan dismisses the criticisms as just your typical slamming of a new religion. Besides, business is booming and pumping money into D.C.'s economy, he says.

And that's a very important part of the mission.

The church -- which says it has $8 million worth of assets in its D.C. coffers -- generates money not only through donations, but also through classes and counseling, which cost $36 to $2,000 a shot.

Says Wyan, laughing: "We want people to give lots and lots of money."

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"Roger Gonnet" posted:

Looks that DM puts most of its staffs to RPFs to refurbish old buildings, so as to make more money from the buildings he bought by this "trust" - look, this is no more than money placement with slaves work behind.

Here is a bylaws from one of these "trusts" declared in 1993 to the IRS:

http://www.xenufrance.net/flag-ship-trust-bylaws-and-amendment.pdf [pdf file]

and 1023 forms:

http://www.xenufrance.net/sirt-to-irs-1023.pdf [pdf file]

http://www.xenufrance.net/fst-to-irs-1023.pdf [pdf file]

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Scientology-Related Multi-Media

On May 13, 2006 "David Touretzky" posted:

Wednesday morning (May 10, 2006) I received a phone call from a producer at KCOL, a Clear Channel radio station in Ft. Collins, Colorado. They were doing a Scientology show and wanted me to appear as a guest. The original plan was to do three segments, 10-15 minutes each, half an hour apart. The first guest was to be Bob Adams, who is this month's official spokesdroid for the Church of Scientology International. He has apparently replaced Ed Parkin, who in turn replaced the prickly and wonderfully inept Linda Simmons Haight.

An interesting side note about Bob Adams: he is a former VP of ABLE INT who was "disappeared" from the ABLE web site after he verbally threatened Pamela Lichtenwalner over her anti-Narconon work, which resulted in her filing a police report. Details here:

http://stop-narconon.org/Bob-Adams

The second guest was to be Chuck Beatty, who spent 27 years in the Sea Org, and the third guest was going to be me. While chatting with the producer, I started warning her about all the lies that Scientology tells the media (e.g., that they have 10 million members, they're compatible with Catholicism, they never heard of "Xenu", etc.) As a result of this conversation, they changed the lineup. They decided to have me on much earlier, to set things up. Then they'd have Bob Adams on at his scheduled time, and see how well I had predicted what he was going to say. And then Chuck would go. So that's what we did.

Here's what I covered:

- 10 million members is a lie; the real number is under 100,000

- Scientology is not just a cult, it's an ABUSIVE cult (with a quick explanation of the characteristics of abusive cults)

- compatibility with Catholicism is a lie; reincarnation is heresy to the Catholic Church, and Hubbard said "there was no Christ"

- Quick summary of Scientology beliefs: (1) you need therapy for all the bad stuff that's happened to you from the moment of conception onward; (2) you're an immortal being and need therapy for all the bad stuff that's happened to you in all your past lives, too -- and you have to pay by the hour; (3) you're possessed by the spirits of murdered space aliens, called "body thetans", and they need therapy too.

- Quick summary of the Xenu story the cult's attempts to suppress it, and the fact that I have the first page of OT III in L. Ron Hubbard's own handwriting up on my web site at Carnegie Mellon,

- If I had a chance to ask Bob Adams two questions, what would they be?

Answer: (1) When are you guys going to stop lying about Scientology being compatible with Christianity, and (2) When are you going to stop lying about Xenu and talk openly about what you believe?

- I ended my segment in the traditional way: with a plug for XENU.NET.

About an hour later it was time for Bob Adams. They asked him a bunch of questions based on my segment, and what was interesting was the way he dialed back his answers compared to the usual Scientology canned PR lines.

For example, they asked him how many members the church had, and he said about 10 million, but it was hard to get an exact number because it was based in part on how many people had bought books. (A tougher interviewer would have jumped on this and said "You mean anyone who buys a copy of Dianetics is considered a Scientologist? So if I buy a copy of DSM 4, does that make me a psychiatrist?")

Then they asked him if Scientology was compatible with Catholicism, and he did a major waffling job, sort of but not really conceding that different religions have different belief systems and the two weren't really compatible.

They they asked him about "space aliens", and he said something really surprising. He claimed that the critics had confused Zeno, an ancient Greek philosopher, with some of Hubbard's science fiction writings, and that's where this "Zeno story" comes from; it wasn't really part of Scientology.

Wow!!!! It looks like Scientology has come up with a new shore story for its pre-OT members who encounter the Xenu stuff: it's just part of a smear campaign invented by confused wogs.

[...]

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On May 10, 2006 "James" posted:

Hello everybody around here!

I haven't been posting for last couple of months since I was too occupied with my work. Besides that I was travelling a lot.

And I took the chance to shoot some more pics of European Orgs and missions so that people all around the globe can see how the real situation and condition of Co$ in Europe is like.

Here are some pics from the Duesseldorf Org/Germany:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67/anon23ster/Duesseldorf_GermanyOrg1.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67/anon23ster/Duesseldorf_GermanyOrg2.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67/anon23ster/Duesseldorf_GermanyOrg3.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67/anon23ster/Duesseldorf_GermanyOrg4.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67/anon23ster/Duesseldorf_GermanyOrg5.jpg

[...]

Here are some pics of the CC Duesseldorf:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67/anon23ster/CC_DuesseldorfOrg1.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67/anon23ster/CC_DuesseldorfOrg2.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67/anon23ster/CC_DuesseldorfOrg3.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67/anon23ster/CC_DuesseldorfOrg4.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67/anon23ster/CC_DuesseldorfOrg5.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67/anon23ster/CC_DuesseldorfOrg6.jpg

[...]

Here are some pics of the Stuttgart Org:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67/anon23ster/StuttgartOrg1.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67/anon23ster/StuttgartOrg2.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67/anon23ster/StuttgartOrg3.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67/anon23ster/StuttgartOrg4.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67/anon23ster/StuttgartOrg5.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67/anon23ster/StuttgartOrg6.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67/anon23ster/StuttgartOrg7.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67/anon23ster/StuttgartOrg8.jpg

[...]

Here are some pics from the Mission Karlsruhe:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67/anon23ster/GermanOrg1.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67/anon23ster/GermanOrg2.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67/anon23ster/GermanOrg3.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67/anon23ster/GermanOrg4.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67/anon23ster/GermanOrg5.jpg

[...]

Here are some pics from the Mission in Ulm (smaller town between Munich and Stuttgart):

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67/anon23ster/MissionUlm_GermanyOrg1.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67/anon23ster/MissionUlm_GermanyOrg2.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67/anon23ster/MissionUlm_GermanyOrg3.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67/anon23ster/MissionUlm_GermanyOrg4.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67/anon23ster/MissionUlm_GermanyOrg5.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67/anon23ster/MissionUlm_GermanyOrg6.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a67/anon23ster/MissionUlm_GermanyOrg7.jpg

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On May 8, 2006 "Neil C" posted:

[DOC. DUMPED...TOO SWEET!!!]

proflex wrote:

What a great day....could you call it christmas? In the process of returning from my daily meal at the homeless shelter i took a ride down our local WISE/SCIENO ROW...(several wise buisnesses in the same strip mall)...one looked as if it was out of buisness..or the owner declared or something because all the office contents were out on the curb for garbage collection....yes my critic friends this motherload consisted of several boxes of comm.ev. reports,wise arbitration documents and statments,freewinds bills,ethics matters,LRH policies,unpaid salary complaints,tax exempt documents,OT8 ethics reports, misdeeds reports,customer lists and scieno relation w/discounts,special freewinds projects and reports,etc.,etc.,etc.

[...]

Proflex has provided photo's of the retrieved documents, and some scans.

click here

http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?t=18264&postorder=asc

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"Woggle" posted:

[2,826 pages of FBI files covering L. Ron Hubbard and the Church of]

http://www.paperlessarchives.com/hubbard.html

Reposted from Andreas' thread, in case anyone wants to purchase the CD-Rom for $10.00

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"Warrior" posted:

See a.b.s. for scans of the May 9, 1982 Clearwater Sun article on Scientology.

[Witnesses tell of break-ins, conspiracy]

For those who don't subscribe to a.b.s., the scans are webbed at

http://warrior.xenu.ca/CW_Sun_9May82-1.jpg and
http://warrior.xenu.ca/CW_Sun_9May82-2.jpg

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FBI documents on Hubbard

"Andreas Heldal-Lund" posted:

Search through 638 documents about L Ron Hubbard released from the FBI archives. The documents range from 1940 to 1983.

http://www.xenu.net/archive/FBI/

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On May 6, 2006, Barbara Schwarz posted "I will web some FBI letters on L. Ron Hubbard soon, saying they never had investigatory interest in him", then later posted a series of posts in the format:

"U.S. Dept. of Justice, Office of Information and Privacy, wrote to me on May 3, 2001, that Anchorage FBI Field Office has no records on L. Ron Hubbard."

Besides Anchorage, Barbara Schwarz posted the names of several dozen cities, including Las Vegas, in which the FBI had no records on Hubbard. San Juan, according to Schwarz, had only two pages on Hubbard.

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News from Inside Gold Base

"Neil C" posted news from the Operation Clambake Forum from poster "Blown For Good:"

On May 11, 2006:

Updates on all things unimportant

Tom's camp getting tight and edgy - Miker Rinder Breathes then Takes SHIT

Well, finally the security leaks at both Gold and Tom Cruise camp are being followed up on. There have been a few magazines that have been so insanely spot on the entire time as to what would happen with Tom and Katie that Church staff are trying to find out who the leaks are. Between the Int Base and Tom's place there are so many moles it is insane. Here is the best part, some of the people that are checking out the leaks, are involved in the leaks!

[...]

What ever Sea Org unit bought those 500 tickets for MI3 in LA effectively cancelled any remote chances that the Int Base would get to go into Hemet to see it. That story was covered far and wide! The Gold guys have not gone to the movies since Battlefield Earth came out anyway. Every single person at the Int Base HAD to watch BE 3 times!! Most people caught the first showing and ended up seeing two other movies with BE stubs.

Talking about Mike Rinder, Mr Scientology PR - He seems to be the only talking for Scientology these days since Tom so majorly fucked things up. I would love for the media to know what Mike Rinder is doing while not on TV - Here is a guy that was knee deep in shit. I am not speaking figuratively - At the Int Base the entire property is managed by their own sewage system. All of the shit is pumped out to two huge ponds (as big as two football fields) where it is aired out and evaporates into the air. Well, since the shit is so thick at the Int Base - it does not evaporate that well and must be manually taken out of the pond every few years and sent to the dump. Here comes the good part - because the all of the CMO INT staff were such assholes - Dave had them spend at least 2 weeks FULL TIME day and night (Sunrise to Midnight) cleaning all of the shit out of these ponds. We are talking about trucks and trucks loaded with shit that had to be shoveled up and bucket brigaded out of these huge ponds. When shit is several months old it is basically like chucky dirt and very dusty. Imagine having to breathe shitdust all day and all night. Talk about the Anti-Purif! Well that is exactly what Rinder does while not on TV saying how Bruce Hines is full of shit - No Mike - YOU are full of shit - literally from breathing it full time for weeks on end. So yeah Mark Yager, Mark Ingber, G Leserve, Rinder and all of theother Top scientology "execs" shoveling shit full time becuase Dave wanted to punish them. I would love for someone to pop that question to Mike while on the air, "Is it true that you yourself are a shit expert, having worked with it for quite some time?"

Anyway, Mike Rinder himself has been calling some of the media outlets with leaky Tom intel trying to get to the leaks. He even went so far as to tell one media outlet that they could run the story on Tom in exchange for the source of the leak! While in LA or NY Mike rinder lives it up. Of course he does, When he is at the base - he is total scum and Dave loves to let him know that. If the OSA guys in LA even knew what a total fuckup Mike Rinder is when he steps onto the Int Base. No rank - no respect - just another Int Base SP waiting for the axe to drop any minute.

[...]

Anyone else with media contacts - send them my way. You would never imagine how many magazines will talk trash about Tom Cruise or Scientology now - They are practically lining up. Keep up the good work!
BFG

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On May 12, 2006 "Chuck Beatty" posted:

[blownforgood's comments on David Miscavige's (Scientology movement's top leader's) beatings......]

"The beatings were very secretive through the 90's. It was in 2000 onwards where he was beating these guys more and more and it was a regular thing. In 2003-2004 I would assume there was at least a beating each day and some time multiple ones depending on how many meeting there were. The main guys that I saw DM hit over and over again at meetings were, Mike Rinder, Marc Yager, Gueilleme Leserve, Mark Ingber, Ray Mitoff and Rick Cruzen."

-blownforgood

(I confirmed the above with two other ex Int staffers who saw the same. One of them said that David Miscavige's beating they'd witnessed from 1995 onwards to until 2005, and agree the beatings were way more frequent in the last couple years.)

Please, any other lurking ex Int staff who saw these petty beatings, please contact me or somehow share what you saw and confirm or offer your input.

Chuck Beatty
Ex-Sea Org (lifetime staffer, 1975-2003)
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Bankrupt Cult Victims

On May 2, 2006 "Nevada Gas" posted:

[Ex-GO I/O Tom Reitze liquidates stock, for the "Third Dynamic"]

[link no longer works, text below]

(with recent photo of Tom Reitze)
http://pasa.wordpress.com/2006/05/02/invest-in-your-future-2/
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Pasadena Ideal Org Fundraisers
Just another Wordpress.com weblog

Invest in your future!
May 2, 2006 at 6:01 am

Something Sally Jensen said got me thinking. She said what we're doing in buying this building and creating an ideal org in Pasadena is converting First Dynamic assets into Third Dynamic assets.

I had an "untouchable" reserve invested in stocks. My idea was I would never tap this - I would just let it grow and grow over the years.

I looked up the definitions of two words in the World Book Dictionary. "Donation" means "a gift, contribution." "Investment" means "a laying out of money for something that is expected to produce a profit or benefit." Donation has a one-way flow to it while investment implies a two-way flow - you outflow something and then get something back in return.

I definitely didn't want to take my reserves and just outflow them.

But then I started looking at the Pasadena Org building as an investment.?

[...]

Looked at this way, it made most sense to invest my reserves in buying the new Pasadena Org building and creating an ideal org right here and now. That's the investment that in truth provides the best return. So I did!

Much love,
Tom Reitze

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Tom Reitze - Scientology Service Completions:
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/t/tom-reitze.html

Scientology Statistics - Impact 59 Patrons [1995]
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/impact/impact059patrons.html
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Tom Reitze

Slatkinfraud:
http://www.slatkinfraud.com/99_researched.htm
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Tom Reitze was the Information Officer at the Guardian's Office during the heyday of Snow White. As of 1999, he was the CEO of WISE company David Morse & Associates in Glendale, CA. Nancy Reitze, possibly Tom's wife, was a spokesman for the church in Clearwater in 1979, and is still active.

Expanded Snow White Info - New List of Unindicted Co-con[s]pirators
http://home.earthlink.net/~snefru/GO/newgo.html
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This list of names comes from additional documents relating to the Snow White convictions, and includes names that weren't found on my original list of unindicted co-conspirators.
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Tom Reitze

What's New at the GO Roundup?
http://home.earthlink.net/~snefru/GO/new.html
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What do Duke Snider and Tom Reitze have in common? Other than the fact that they're both ex-GO agents, of course? Both men are currently working for scientologist-owned insurance company David Morse and Associates."

wAiF!
http://www.wwwaif.net/scn/scn_GO_1.php
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According to a source who prefers to remain nameless, Duke is currently working for David Morse & Associates, a scientologist-owned insurance company based in beautiful -- and theta-heavy -- Glendale, California. While Duke heads up the New York and Boston offices, his fellow GO co-conspirator Tom Reitze is the secretary/treasurer of DMA Claims Administration Inc., also based in Glendale."

Supplementary

Tom Reitze [plus] scientology (Google)
http://www.google.com/search?q=Tom+Reitze+%2Bscientology&btnG=Search&hl=en&lr=

Tom Reitze +scientology (Google/Groups)
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Tom%20Reitze%20%2Bscientology&btnG=Search&hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=wg

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On May 11, 2006 the St. Petersburg Times, Florida reported:

http://www.sptimes.com/2006/05/11/Tampabay/Is_he_a_slumlord_or_e.shtml

Is he a slumlord or ethical specialist?

The man who owns an apartment building evacuated by officials for safety violations also holds Scientology's highest status.

Published May 11, 2006

ST. PETERSBURG -

In the world of Scientology, Scott W. Snow is a winner.

He has achieved the religion's highest level of training, higher even than megastar Tom Cruise, a distinction that brings with it lofty ethical standards.

But in St. Petersburg, city leaders call him slumlord.

Snow, 51, is the owner of the Chinook Apartments in Midtown, which the city shut down May 2 after finding multiple fire code violations. Now two dozen Chinook tenants have hired a lawyer and are preparing a lawsuit. And the city is investigating 39 separate code violation complaints at Snow's other three St. Petersburg apartment buildings.

This is not Snow's first brush with trouble, according to documents and interviews. In 2002 he filed for bankruptcy, saying he owed more than $700,000 and had only $22 in his pocket. But a month before settling the bankruptcy lawsuit, he purchased three Midtown apartment buildings for $1.25-million, helped by a loan from a fellow Scientologist. A year later, he bought the Chinook Apartments for $2.2-million.

Now, after the unprecedented evacuation of Chinook, city officials have stepped up their criticism. Council member Bill Foster this week referred to Snow as a "slumlord." Foster called the apartment building "a cancer growing in our community" and declared "an open season on slumlords."

Snow, who lives with his second wife, Gayle, and their children in Oldsmar, has declined repeated requests for an interview, citing pending litigation. He refused to comment about Chinook, saying he did not want to "try the case in the press." The property manager for his rental buildings, Sharon Johnson, described her boss as "a mystery."

"But he's a good mystery," added Johnson, 35, who has taken a few courses offered by the Church of Scientology. "He's not this bad person, he's not this monster. He cares."

Snow filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy in November 2002, with debts amounting to $718,970. At the time, he was a real estate broker and a small business owner.

He said that he had just $22 in the bank and was driving a 1984 Dodge Caravan valued at $250. The trustee in the bankruptcy case noted in a 2003 filing that she was "not able to verify the reason for the significant accumulation of debt.''

In the several years leading up to the bankruptcy, Scientology publications note that Snow took a series of Scientology courses that former members say would have cost him tens of thousands of dollars.

One of the courses, taken in 1999 aboard Scientology's cruise ship, the Freewinds, made him an "ethics specialist.'' He also took courses in 2000 and 2001, but said in court filings that he made an income of $17,765 in 2000 and just $589 in 2001.

According to Scientology publications, in 1989 Snow reached the highest level currently available to Scientologists, OT VIII; actor Tom Cruise is an OT VII.

The upper levels of Scientology, which can cost several hundred thousand dollars to complete, offer the promise of becoming an "operating thetan" or "OT," which, according to church materials, is someone who lives "with full awareness, memory and ability, independent of the physical universe."

According to a church official, only a few thousand Scientologists in the world - among the millions of members the church claims - have reached the level OT VIII.

Ben Shaw, a spokesman for Scientology in Clearwater, declined to discuss Snow's status with the church and said it was inappropriate to mention Snow's religious affiliation in the media because he is not, and never has been, in a position of authority or leadership at the church. But Shaw did note the church expects people in the advanced levels of Scientology "to have a higher level of ethics.''

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Gratitude

On May 12, 2006 "Chuck Beatty" posted:

This is just a thankyou to all those who've done what they did over the years.

I want to thank all those ex Sea Org members, and the exiting decades long former "OTs", and all the persons speaking out the last many decades, the book writers, the persons willing to stand up and voice their opinions, it's all an ongoing helpful event for someone like me, to finally exit Scientology, and draw upon all the accumulated understandings that people who have exited already and who are live still commenting on the whole Scientology movement scene.

I thank:

First off those ex Sea Org members who stood up and walked out, in their various ways. (it was truly their examples and their reasons for getting out that I believe weighs on the minds of others like their examples weighed on my mind, as my belief is that simply departing the Sea Org is voting with one's fee, and that example accumulates and weighs on those Sea Org members still in their pitching in the Sea Org, and spurs and reassures those inside that leaving is NOT the end of the world!)

Then those ex Sea Org members who went public in various ways. (Their courage to weather the counter attacks the church has thrown at those who spoke up, but I do believe the church is lessening that counter attacking as boldly and viciously as they have done to the first many generations of ex Sea Org who felt compelled to speak out.)

Then the whole crew of people (people of sharper intellect) who've taken an interest, journalists, media, TV, the observers on ARS and other chat sites, over the years. The staying tuned to the ongoing events in Scientology and keeping alive and discussing the ongoing events and continuing Scientology created predicaments, sharing the inside information, allowing a means to leak out live the ongoing less than delightful live predicaments is just a permanently good thing about the internet, and those that keep alive a critical eye on Scientology.

Coming out of the Sea Org only 3 years ago, I was floored to find all the voluminous accumulated and live material being shared about all angles of Scientology.

Anyways, thanks to all persons living and deceased, who did something to keep alive this discussion and exposure of the less than good things about Scientology.

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