Return-Path: Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 22:31:34 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199701130531.WAA19265@primenet.com> X-Sender: cultxpt@mailhost.primenet.com From: cultxpt@primenet.com Subject: Moxon and me On October 20, 1995 I was deposed by Kendrick Moxon in regard to Arnie Lerma's case. In the following section Moxon was asking me whether I knew what the processes of the OT levels were. I wasn't quite sure where he was going, and I'm still not, but here he states very plainly that the Xenu story that Judge Brinkema remarked on in her ruling is NOT A TRADE SECRET! * * * * Q. Do you know the general story that concerns OT 3? A. Yes. Q. You know "75 million years ago" and all of that? A. Yes. Q. You know that's not a trade secret, don't you? A. Not a trade secret? Q. Yes. Is that what you were claiming was part of a trade secret? A. You better start over. I am claiming that something is a trade secret? Can we start over? Q. Well, you know the OT materials generally are secret, right? A. The Church considers them a trade secret, yes. Q. And you have seen a lot of references on ARS to this general story that's connected with OT 3, the 75 million year incident - A. Yes. Q. et cetera? That's what is primarily on the interenet that you say you have seen from time to time? A. Yes. Q. That's what you were talking about earlier in the deposition where you have go OT materials on the internet? A. Yes. Q. It's not the processes that are on the internet on a daily basis, correct? A. Not that I know of. Q. In fact, you don't know if you have ever seen any actual processes on the internet, do you? A. Not the way you apply the OT material, no. Q. Do you know that the incident, the 75 million year ago incident has been a matter of public record for many years? A. At least since the trial, which was I don't remember when, '85 or so. Q. And that taht was part of a - did you know that was part of a screen play, in fact? A. Revolt in the Stars. Q. Right. You are familiar with RJ-67? A. Ron's Journal, yes. Q. That makes references to the OT 3 incident also, doesn't it? A. Reference, yes. Q. 75 million year ago incident? A. Yes. Q. That's something that the Church of Scientology has brought that it disseminates, as far as you know, is that right? A. Yes. * * * * I have no idea where Moxon was heading with the above, but he obviously tries to prove to me that the Xenu story is PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE.