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However, some persons on a.r.s remain unconvinced by this and believe that "Vera Wallace" is getting preferential treatment.
Grady Ward issued another call for people to send him documents about the CoS. His post also includes helpful information about PGP.
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology From: grady@netcom.com (Grady Ward) Subject: SEND SCIENTOLOGY 2 ME! Message-ID: <gradyD6vLrz.7v0@netcom.com> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 15:02:23 GMT The criminal cult of scientology and their battery of lawyers and perhaps hundreds of millions of dollars in litigation funds have declared war on the net and criticism of their scam. L. Ron Hubbard's policy is that all "enemies" are "fair game" and may be "tricked, sued, lied to or destroyed." Some of us are fighting this criminal cult by collecting quotations that expose the cartoon cosmology and other true nature of this criminal cult for all to see. I am soliciting authentic scientology material under the fair use doctrine of the U.S. Copyright code. Please send material to me at grady@netcom.com. To avoid harassment by the criminal cult of scientology and generally increase privacy, you must encrypt your material using my PGP public key, which is -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6 mQCPAi35lYsAAAEEAKlQh8kXZJud5jMqMHN6FVWBwgPEShHdJAN348myr2kH3nlm cVZm7jxPKyWzwVWsBK3K4SAJ556hark7EJXPKNtVDbaC2juUUzXZxtNpWEOfMGYw apN+hnkJlV94tpMPF1e17jA1s3+HvVOo5RlmoKokmIivDSrkd3ZesDZpuNydABEB AAG0QEdyYWR5IFdhcmQgIDxncmFkeUBuZXRjb20uY29tPiAgKzEgNzA3IDgyNiA3 NzE1ICh2b2ljZS8yNGhyIEZBWCmJAJQCBRAubX/kqxDTjVMu8iEBAX1CA/Y3C32X Y1nMdhY8RGspvI0/99q5lJc6IhNcpg2FKXYd7WBSctPswSlculWPCUgC3cEbx9uL grz+rJrJ6RzI2ET/NBar4yS7G+8NKewOWFQgWTPVnfReBA91xJpkil9yL5nCM5Xo oGplIhFcObevK/vFgH3KRupIhY+7CabOFomgiQCVAgUQLlEFI1ATUFXEbyElAQF+ VQP/ZnqLw0sxgWyd/at9m8UhByTHFSMRcVQngwBoKGQAC7gSLIWlD2Gb8ftpdw9v ECcAeSAojIqgPVZPyqaNIPFrYZcRSKslGeDyykuW48tvnK7/jv+zO1x3F5afHuei zl3Ih5BkspCepjGZfzCrdCWCwR+geG8/l5SXQaJg9JPn6XiJAJUCBRAt+ZXhdl6w Nmm43J0BAWCqA/9OoZaeuEwmmg0lJldJKXG5q2IGJou9bvUtMOB6s5yGdwB0uGiY 7P5Zo9PtPngbxmUbbh7zYRm8CYC0Ujpm2RqA4aTLKLKbuZUuw8fWk1PBjI30YrfZ esqUXo83QQozoeZwM3I9fiGXvprvqmhrHlA5M3FUPIigFzqrJ8+BrKWYAQ== =PsSw -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- (This key can be verified by 'finger grady@netcom.com' or through the PGP keyservers, or personally at +1 707 826 7715 (voice/fax).) To get your own free copy of PGP, telnet to net-dist.mit.edu and login: with "getpgp". Then follow instructions. Outside the US, fetch PGP via anonymous ftp at (from the PGP faq): As Norway is not limited by ITAR, no hoops are needed to get this version: http://www.ifi.uio.no/~staalesc/PGP/versions.html You may also get it via mail by sending a message to hypnotech-request@ifi.uio.no with your request in the subject: GET pgp26i[s].[zip | tar.gz] Specify the "s" if you want the source code. Putting ".zip" at the end gets you the files in the PKZIP/Info-ZIP archive format, while putting "tar.gz" at the end gets the files in a gzipped tar file. PGP 2.6ui: ftp://ftp.mantis.co.uk/pub/cryptography/ http://www.mantis.co.uk/pgp/pgp.html This link is also an excellent resource for other information about PGP. If you desire even more privacy, please send your PGP encrypted file to me using an anonymous remailer. An anonymous remailer strips off your identifying headers of your e-mail and substitutes generic "anonymous" ones. In the case you send material through an anonymous remailer, you may want to include a "code name" to help me better organize the material. To learn more about anonymous remailers, send a message of "help" to mg5n+remailer-list@andrew.cmu.edu or browse http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~raph/remailer-list.html To learn more about the criminal cult of scientology and their war on free speech and Usenet, try http://www.mit.edu:8001/people/rnewman/scientology/home.html -- Grady Ward +1 707 826 7715 (voice / 24hr FAX) grady@netcom.com ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*Newbies to a.r.s got a new introduction, courtesy of Steve Winslow.
From: imxenu@ibm.net (Steve Winslow)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Welcome to a.r.s. folks, the show has begun.....
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 22:07:29 GMT
Organization: ---
Message-ID: <3mhj1t$491@mn5.swip.net>
To all the people from all over the 'Net that have flocked to
a.r.s. lately I say a hearty welcome to the show! Read about the
"Church" of $cientology and their scam, their methods and their greed.
Read about their attempts to harass/intimidate/threaten all opponents,
or indeed everyone who is perceived as being an opponent. Then call
your congressman. Ask him/her to look into it. Boycott
$cientology-related companies. Keep track of them. And help stamp out
Co$. And don't forget that Co$ isn't only the clowns that speak for
them here on a.r.s. If it was there would be no problem. But Co$ is a
cold-blooded criminal money-laundering cheating organization with
people in dark suits, with big offices and cold hearts. They are the
ones that we want to get at!
/Steve
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An anonymous user posted the following parody.
Message-ID: <072345Z14041995@anon.penet.fi>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
From: an161891@anon.penet.fi (Dick Ravis)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 07:22:32 UTC
Subject: $tupidology Tricks
DISCLAIMER
The following advanced techniques are restricted to $tupidologists who have
acheived the state of Fuzzy. Premature exposure to this material may
result in snickering, flatulence, and uncontrollable laughter. In
addition, it only further clouds the picture.
$tupidology tricks are to be turned only by trained professionals. Monetary
rewards are to be deposited in numbered accounts in Luxemborg and
Switzerland. Kids, don't try this at home.
1. Write "Free Phone Sex from Mistress Helena (800) FOR-TRUT"
on bathroom stalls everywhere.
2. Post DobbsThink Wins on America Online's Scientology forum,
which is just a back-to-back collection of Big Wins (tm).
3. Get and post "Vera Wallace's" name, address, and home phone number.
4. Leave a food collection box full of maggot-infested rice and
dented cans of beans at your local chapter office.
5. Find out how many different personalities (not just Netcom
accounts) "Woody" really has. Send him just enough e-mail so
that he runs out of disk space. If you have problems with
this, ask Kevin Mitnick if he can send large amounts of data.
6. Print milk cartons with pictures of David Miscavige saying,
"Have you seen me? $3000 reward for lost poodle!"
7. Dust off some mothballed DC-8's and paint signs saying,
"Thetan Cattlecar Express". Land them on the lawn of
Scientology headquarters in southern California.
8. Poison Koos with buttloads of that highly lethal compound,
Sodium Chloride.
9. Ask that pompous Goatee Ate if he's "loving it" 'cause he
enjoys being the idiot laughingstock newbie of a.r.s.
10. The next time an earthquake or other disaster happens,
gather up everybody you can to volunteer to help out, and
wear shirts that say "$cientology Kill$".
11. Start calling your penis Xenu. Be promiscuous.
LEGAL MISCELLANY
(c) 1995 $tupidology, Inc. Fair use? What the f*ck's that?
Elron, Hubba-Hubba-Hubba, Fuzzy, $tupidology, Diabetics, Peter-Meter,
Zee-Gnu, Mark Cabs, and Dee See-Ate are registered trademarks of the Church
of $tupidology.
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Another user posted the Woody Template.
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
From: esmith@ivory.trentu.ca ("Left-Field Marshal Eric S. Smith")
Subject: Woody Template: Make your own replies!
Message-ID: <1995Apr15.004343.17003@blaze.trentu.ca>
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 1995 00:43:43 GMT
Let's all save Woody some time, and make our own replies to our posts.
Here's how:
1. Write out your scathing post.
2. (and here's the special bit): Make a header called WOODY'S RESPONSE
3. Now type in a response like this one:
[Your name]. You cannot create anything. You attempt to destroy the
good of Scientology. [make up something good, like freeing people, or
curing addiction to drugs, or something]
You can only create hate.
Woody
See? It's so easy.
--Eric Smith
Mr. Smith. You cannot create anything...[yatta yatta yatta]
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The fun and games paled in front of Grady Ward's report that he had been
visited by two Scientologists on Friday, April 14th. It was the first time
that a non-Scientologist detractor who had started reading a.r.s after the
Dennis Erlich raid had been so visited.
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
From: grady@netcom.com (Grady Ward)
Subject: Scientologists pay me a visit!
Message-ID: <gradyD71yLv.47w@netcom.com>
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 1995 01:25:07 GMT
Two scientologists paid a visit to our house today in Arcata.
Ray and Jack Keras(?) identified themselves as Scientologists
to my wife who immediately asked them to leave the property.
Jack -- who had driven up from San Francisco did the talking
while Ray stayed out of sight around the corner of the house.
They stayed at the door and repeated that they wanted to talk
to me so I called 911.
It took about fifteen minutes for the police to arrive and
by that time the two scientologists left. [My wife first
saw Ray as he walked back to his car with Jack.]
(Each came in separate cars; the SF guy (Jack) came in a late
model dark green Honda; Ray left in a 70's El Camino.)
While I was making the report to Officer Bob Murphy, Ray
returned and talked to the officer for a few minutes
(I went back into the house at this time so as to
avoid being IDed by Ray). Ray turned out to be the local
airport manager.)
Since they didn't leave when asked I'm filing a misdemeanor
trespassing charge against them and, since they identified
themselves as from the Church of Scientology, I am filing
for a restraining order against the entire criminal cult
as soon as the the district attorney's office opens Monday.
I also got many high quality photos of both people and their
automobiles.
The local Officer Murphy was a little fuzzy about scientology
so I gave him a photocopy of the TIME article "Thriving Cult
of Greed and Power" to help educate him.
I'm flattered that some OSA guy would make the 5 hour auto
trip from SF to tell me about their criminal cult, but I'm
afraid a copy of the restraining order will take a lot
less time to be faxed and send via certified mail to Kobrin
and the other principals.
--
Grady Ward +1 707 826 7715 (voice / 24hr FAX) grady@netcom.com
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A Scientologist named "Chris Miller" offered the Scientology perspective
(such as it was) on this visitation.
From: Chris Miller <cmiller@covina.lightside.com>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: Scientologists pay me a visit!
Date: 15 Apr 1995 07:35:14 GMT
Message-ID: <3mnsvi$kb9@covina.lightside.com>
wbarwell@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (William Barwell) wrote:
>
> In article <gradyD71yLv.47w@netcom.com>, Grady Ward <grady@netcom.com> wrote:
> >Two scientologists paid a visit to our house today in Arcata.
> >Ray and Jack Keras(?) identified themselves as Scientologists
> >to my wife who immediately asked them to leave the property.
> >
> >Jack -- who had driven up from San Francisco did the talking
> >while Ray stayed out of sight around the corner of the house.
> >
> >They stayed at the door and repeated that they wanted to talk
> >to me so I called 911.
>
> I hope they take rejection well.
> Wonder what they wanted to spew about?
>
>
> >
> >It took about fifteen minutes for the police to arrive and
> >by that time the two scientologists left. [My wife first
> >saw Ray as he walked back to his car with Jack.]
> >
> >(Each came in separate cars; the SF guy (Jack) came in a late
> >model dark green Honda; Ray left in a 70's El Camino.)
> >
>
> It takes two big brave Stupidologists in two old cars to do these things?
>
> >While I was making the report to Officer Bob Murphy, Ray
> >returned and talked to the officer for a few minutes
> >(I went back into the house at this time so as to
> >avoid being IDed by Ray). Ray turned out to be the local
> >airport manager.)
> >
> Silly bozos.
>
>
> >Since they didn't leave when asked I'm filing a misdemeanor
> >trespassing charge against them and, since they identified
> >themselves as from the Church of Scientology, I am filing
> >for a restraining order against the entire criminal cult
> >as soon as the the district attorney's office opens Monday.
> >
> Good for you.
>
>
> >I also got many high quality photos of both people and their
> >automobiles.
> >
> >The local Officer Murphy was a little fuzzy about scientology
> >so I gave him a photocopy of the TIME article "Thriving Cult
> >of Greed and Power" to help educate him.
> >
> >
> >I'm flattered that some OSA guy would make the 5 hour auto
> >trip from SF to tell me about their criminal cult, but I'm
> >afraid a copy of the restraining order will take a lot
> >less time to be faxed and send via certified mail to Kobrin
> >and the other principals.
> >
>
I could not find Jack, but Ray was located in Arcata and I
asked him what happened. What follows is his version of what
occurred:
Jack, a Scientologist from San Francisco apparently wanted to
discuss matters connected with Internet with Grady Ward and to try and
clear the air with him. Jack looked up the names of Scientologists
in Arcata where Grady lives and found Ray, who has lived there for
many years. Jack asked Ray to accompany him to visit Grady to try
and calmly discuss the situation with him.
They went to Grady's house but were met with hostility from Mrs.
Ward who could not open the door nor would she get Grady to come to
the door so that Jack and Ray could talk with him. Ray and Jack let
Mrs. Ward know that they just wanted to talk.
Jack, who did the talking, identified himself to Mrs. Ward and
stated that he was a Scientologist who merely wanted to discuss the
Internet with Grady. She was still upset and said she was going to
call 911 for the police. She made this threat several times (still
without opening the door) while Jack tried to explain that he meant
them no harm and wished to talk. Ray and Jack were told by Mrs.
Ward to get off the property which they did.
Ray and Jack didn't know if they should wait for the police or
wait to see if Grady would finally come out so they waited on the
sidewalk. Grady never came out and the police didn't arrive, so
after about 10 minutes, they left.
Jack drove back to San Francisco.
Ray went back to Grady's street and saw Grady talking with a
police officer. Ray saw Grady motioning for Ray to come over, so
Ray stopped his car and went over to explain that he and Jack had
simply wanted to talk with Grady. Upon seeing Ray come over however,
Grady excitedly told the police officer that Ray had now identified
him and he dashed back into his house, leaving Ray and Mrs. Ward to
talk with the police officer.
Ray explained the situation to the police officer i.e. that he
had been asked by Jack, who he had just met, to accompany him to see
Grady so that he could rationally discuss the situation concerning
Internet with him. Ray left the police officer his business card and
that was about all that happened. The police officer was satisfied
that nothing untoward was happening and Mrs. Ward seemed to have
calmed down. Grady would not discuss the matter in person.
Ray assured me that he and Jack were going to see Grady to try
and improve relations with him.
I find it ludicrous that such a big advocate of the first amendment
like Grady would act like a scared rabbit and hide behind his wife
when someone comes to his door to have a rational discussion.
I have sent the police officer concerned a copy of What is Scientology
so that he can have the correct information on the Church.
Chris Miller
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Grady wasn't buying any of it.
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
From: grady@netcom.com (Grady Ward)
Subject: Re: Scientologists pay me a visit!
Message-ID: <gradyD72w84.L56@netcom.com>
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 1995 13:31:16 GMT
I speculate that the (OSA?) guy from SanFrancisco (Jack) was on
an intelligence gathering mission: what kind of person and house,
perimeter, apparent wealth, kind of family, obvious alarms or dogs,
how telephone service gets to house, etc etc etc.
You'd be surprised at the amount of stuff you can get in a
"routine" visit. I doubt the local criminal cult member, Ray,
had anything to do with the plan except act as backup to Jack.
I'll provide more details (case number, etc) as they become
available. I'm faxing the police station a couple of newspaper
articles (Los Angeles Times series part 6) to add to the TIME
article.
While I've briefed a few of my key neighbors (read: the "networked" ones)
I'll go around again with copies of the articles and my story
to back up my previous alert.
--
Grady Ward +1 707 826 7715 (voice / 24hr FAX) grady@netcom.com
===
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
From: grady@netcom.com (Grady Ward)
Subject: Re: Scientologists pay me a visit!
Organization: +1 707 826 7715 grady@netcom.com
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 1995 15:23:24 GMT
Chris Miller (cmiller@covina.lightside.com) wrote:
: Jack, a Scientologist from San Francisco apparently wanted to
: discuss matters connected with Internet with Grady Ward and to try and
: clear the air with him. Jack looked up the names of Scientologists
So -- why didn't they *call* first? Or better, post to Usenet for
all to see?
: in Arcata where Grady lives and found Ray, who has lived there for
: many years. Jack asked Ray to accompany him to visit Grady to try
: and calmly discuss the situation with him.
Read: gather intelligence. Does Jack care to invite me to his OSA
hideout with my camera crew? I'm sure we can have a nice quiet
long talk.
: They went to Grady's house but were met with hostility from Mrs.
: Ward who could not open the door nor would she get Grady to come to
: the door so that Jack and Ray could talk with him. Ray and Jack let
: Mrs. Ward know that they just wanted to talk.
: Jack, who did the talking, identified himself to Mrs. Ward and
: stated that he was a Scientologist who merely wanted to discuss the
: Internet with Grady. She was still upset and said she was going to
She said "Leave the property or we will call the police." The
scientologists didn't leave, so I called the police. As Hubbard
would say "even a fool can understand that."
: call 911 for the police. She made this threat several times (still
: without opening the door) while Jack tried to explain that he meant
: them no harm and wished to talk. Ray and Jack were told by Mrs.
: Ward to get off the property which they did.
They finally sauntered off *after* I had to call the police because of
the trespass. Those scientologists committed a crime.
: Ray went back to Grady's street and saw Grady talking with a
: police officer. Ray saw Grady motioning for Ray to come over, so
I IDed the car and driver to Officer Murphy. I have no idea why Ray
came back. Bad move I'd say since we now have his positive ID.
: Ray stopped his car and went over to explain that he and Jack had
: simply wanted to talk with Grady. Upon seeing Ray come over however,
: Grady excitedly told the police officer that Ray had now identified
I want to deny the scientologists as intell as possible.
: him and he dashed back into his house, leaving Ray and Mrs. Ward to
: talk with the police officer.
: Ray explained the situation to the police officer i.e. that he
: had been asked by Jack, who he had just met, to accompany him to see
: Grady so that he could rationally discuss the situation concerning
: Internet with him. Ray left the police officer his business card and
Does Ray normally visit strangers at their home without an appointment?
And then commit the crime of trespass by not *immediately* leaving
the property when demanded? A very bad tactical error.
And who asked Jack to visit me? Is he an official criminal cult representative?
What is his last name and address? What is *your* name, address and
telephone number? The officer may want to talk to you.
: that was about all that happened. The police officer was satisfied
: that nothing untoward was happening and Mrs. Ward seemed to have
I have a case number that the officer wrote up describing the incident.
Members of the criminal cult will not get away with crimes in our
community.
: calmed down. Grady would not discuss the matter in person.
Denying intell. What part of "no" don't you understand?
I will be glad to visit a SF org with a camera crew. When's
our appointment?
: Ray assured me that he and Jack were going to see Grady to try
: and improve relations with him.
Yeah, right. What is both their full names and addresses and scientology
affiliation? What is yours?
:
: I find it ludicrous that such a big advocate of the first amendment
: like Grady would act like a scared rabbit and hide behind his wife
: when someone comes to his door to have a rational discussion.
OK. What is your address and phone number, Jack's full name, address,
phone number and scientology hat and org. Why did Jack and Ray not
leave when my wife demanded it?
If I am such a "scared rabbit", why would I offer to come *inside*
one of your criminal cult orgs to talk? When can I and my camera
crew come and talk things over in a rational way?
How about at *your* home? When can I come over? No appointment neccesary,
right?
And don't put down my wife. She is from the Bronx, educated at Stanford,
and knows shit when she smells it.
: I have sent the police officer concerned a copy of What is Scientology
: so that he can have the correct information on the Church.
I'm sure a criminal cult document will be held with the same weight
as TIME and the Los Angeles Times.
And there are a few more problems with Ray's story, but I'm not giving
you a chance to devise a lie to circumvent them at this point.
Bad move, bozos. Another big win for the criminal cult of scientology!
--
Grady Ward +1 707 826 7715 (voice / 24hr FAX) grady@netcom.com
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Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
From: grady@netcom.com (Grady Ward)
Subject: Re: Scientologists pay me a visit!
Message-ID: <gradyD73ouF.BM7@netcom.com>
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 1995 23:49:27 GMT
Chris Miller (cmiller@covina.lightside.com) wrote:
: grady@netcom.com (Grady Ward) wrote:
: >
: > I speculate that the (OSA?) guy from SanFrancisco (Jack) was on
: > an intelligence gathering mission: what kind of person and house,
: > perimeter, apparent wealth, kind of family, obvious alarms or dogs,
: > how telephone service gets to house, etc etc etc.
: What a joke. You paint everything, including an honest attempt to
: meet with you in person without the vias of going through a computer,
What is your name, address, and phone number? Are you too cowardly to tell?
: And just what good would that do. I think it is clear what your
: position is and what you are doing on the net. I don't think anyone
: is stupid enough to think that finding out about your dog, your wife
: and so on is going to change how you are acting. Perhaps meeting
That is true. The criminal cult are psychopaths, but also fools.
However you may be good at gathering some kinds of data since
that doesn't require higher brain function.
: someone live might get you to realize that Scientologists are also
: individuals and not demons which you obviously are trying to make
: them out to be. They are actually very friendly and are willing
I am willing to come down and visit you and Jack at the org with my
video camera anytime you want. Why are so cowardly as to not reveal
your real name, address, and phone number? It is clear who the
coward is here "Chris Miller".
: to build understanding between people. You sit there behind your
: computer scared to death, dreaming up things about people you have
Scared to death? Hmmm... then tell me why I tell people my real name
address and phone number while you and "Jack" hide behind fake ids?
You are too cowardly to post your real name, address, and phone number.
: Just more garbage that we will sort out with them. I don't suppose
: the fact that Time Magazine and its author are being sued over the
Only four facts remain in contention out of hundreds of black facts
on the criminal cult of scientology. You are too cowardly to even
give your real name.
"Jack" was too afraid he'd get his butt kicked to attempt to trespass
on his own. He's obviously a coward too. We'll see how bravely "Jack"
trespasses after I get the restraining order. Then it will be a felony.
: You can also go and build a castle and a big moat around it and never
: come out. I think it would be advisable that you go outside and
Are you kidding? The criminal cult of scientology is just a warmup
for the real battle for us, which is the SB 652 (was 314) and others
of its ilk.
So -- you chicken-shit coward -- what is your real name, address,
and phone number?
--
Grady Ward +1 707 826 7715 (voice / 24hr FAX) grady@netcom.com
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Chris Miller lamely attempted to answer Grady's annoyed posts.
From: Chris Miller <cmiller@covina.lightside.com>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: Scientologists pay me a visit!
Date: 15 Apr 1995 15:56:27 GMT
Message-ID: <3moqbb$5ft@covina.lightside.com>
grady@netcom.com (Grady Ward) wrote:
>
> I speculate that the (OSA?) guy from SanFrancisco (Jack) was on
> an intelligence gathering mission: what kind of person and house,
> perimeter, apparent wealth, kind of family, obvious alarms or dogs,
> how telephone service gets to house, etc etc etc.
What a joke. You paint everything, including an honest attempt to
meet with you in person without the vias of going through a computer,
as an "intelligence gathering mission". Don't you think that if
they wanted to gather intelligence, they would just hire some private
investigator rather than go and knock on your door?
I think you hide behind your computer too much and are seeing a false
picture of the world around you.
> You'd be surprised at the amount of stuff you can get in a
> "routine" visit. I doubt the local criminal cult member, Ray,
> had anything to do with the plan except act as backup to Jack.
>
And just what good would that do. I think it is clear what your
position is and what you are doing on the net. I don't think anyone
is stupid enough to think that finding out about your dog, your wife
and so on is going to change how you are acting. Perhaps meeting
someone live might get you to realize that Scientologists are also
individuals and not demons which you obviously are trying to make
them out to be. They are actually very friendly and are willing
to build understanding between people. You sit there behind your
computer scared to death, dreaming up things about people you have
never even met.
> I'll provide more details (case number, etc) as they become
> available. I'm faxing the police station a couple of newspaper
> articles (Los Angeles Times series part 6) to add to the TIME
> article.
Just more garbage that we will sort out with them. I don't suppose
the fact that Time Magazine and its author are being sued over the
libelous article which they printed has come to your attention has it?
You are good at the black PR.
> While I've briefed a few of my key neighbors (read: the "networked" ones)
> I'll go around again with copies of the articles and my story
> to back up my previous alert.
>
You can also go and build a castle and a big moat around it and never
come out. I think it would be advisable that you go outside and
take a look around.
Wake up and smell the coffee. There is a real world out there Grady
and it isn't the one you are looking at.
Chris
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"Vera Wallace" chimed in, her usual lovely self. (NOT!)
From: Vera Wallace <vera@earthlink.net>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: Scientologists pay me a visit!
Date: 16 Apr 1995 06:04:45 GMT
Message-ID: <3mqc1t$5aq@mars.earthlink.net>
grady@netcom.com (Grady Ward) wrote:
>
> Two scientologists paid a visit to our house today in Arcata.
> Ray and Jack Keras(?) identified themselves as Scientologists
> to my wife who immediately asked them to leave the property.
>
> Jack -- who had driven up from San Francisco did the talking
> while Ray stayed out of sight around the corner of the house.
>
> They stayed at the door and repeated that they wanted to talk
> to me so I called 911.
>
snip
Ward,
Wgy didn't you ask them what they wanted? Had to hide behind
your wife?
I thought you were the king of wide-open communication?
You become a chicken-man when a real live person is in front
of you?
Come on Ward - grow a spine. You might even learn something
if you could confront talking to anything other than your
computer screen!
What a man you have shown yourself to be.
Vera
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After Grady reported his raid, Martin Hunt noted that the CoS had used
materials seized in the Dennis Erlich raid to get unlisted information
about himself.
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
From: av282@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Martin G. V. Hunt)
Subject: Illegal use of information
Message-ID: <D720zw.Lus@freenet.carleton.ca>
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 1995 02:16:44 GMT
When the cult sent data to the Victoria police, including my (unlisted)
phone number, they broke the law. It seems that my phone number was
obtained from the material seized from Dennis Erilich's house over the
(supposed) copyright infringement (suit.)
This was misappropriation of seized data.
ttyl,
--
"These poor bozos think they're clams, not human beings, so what do you
expect them to do except hide in the mud, spurt at random, and end up
in the chowder?" - Stella.
Cogito, ergo sum. Martin Hunt, av282@freenet.carleton.ca
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After the Grady and Martin revelations, Chris Schafmeister posted the
following "humor" about the OSA.
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
From: schaf@cgl.ucsf.edu (Chris Schafmeister)
Subject: Moving? Please notify the Office of Special Affairs
Message-ID: <schaf.797970157@cgl.ucsf.edu>
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 1995 18:22:37 GMT
To be posted on alt.religion.scientology
-----------------------------------------------
Are you an open critic of Scientology?
Do you read alt.religion.scientology and
believe that Scientology is anything other than
a benevolent religion?
Are you moving?
Please notify your local
Scientology Office of Special Affairs
of your new address.
Doing so promptly will allow us to update our
files and allow us to re-assign:
1) Operatives watching your house.
2) Scientology operatives going through your garbage.
3) Pet euthanasia squads in your previous neighborhood.
4) Operatives asking questions of your neighbors children.
Thank you and have a nice day.
Scientology Office of Special Affairs
---------------------------------------------
.Chris.
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Christian E.A.F. Schafmeister Biophysics graduate student
University of California, San Francisco UUCP: ucbvax!ucsfcgl!schaf
"Biophysics . . . THE future." INTERNET: schaf@cgl.ucsf.edu
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Daniel Davidson posted an update on the resolution of his encounter with
his university. He presented a file of evidence on the activities on a.r.s
to the administration.
From: davidson@sfsu.edu (Daniel Davidson)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Round-up of my Student Discipline meeting
Date: 15 Apr 1995 19:32:47 GMT
Message-ID: <3mp70v$aas@news.csus.edu>
My meeting with the Vice President/Discipline Officer was in a
sense a University no-show. There was nothing to talk about,
from the University's perspective, because they considered the
charge baseless on its face.
We agreed that the unsubstantiated email from Kobrin claiming
copyright violations constituted "unsubstantiated charges of
undemonstrated violations".
I had, however, brought along a clear, well documented sheaf
of indexed papers, laying out the history and actions of all
parties involved. I included lots of neat background on Co$ --
not too much, just the right amount... and articles on
academic perspectives on Internet policy, the Encheferized
text so loved and cherished here, among others.
And of course, the letters y'all took the time to write,
presenting a really remarkable collection of people and ideas.
The University was, however, very concerned that my Internet
account had not been terminated due to Kobrin's unverified
email, and without due process. As it turned out, I had
noticed no unusual trouble, though there is always some
trouble at this site :). They seemed to think I had been
kicked off...
Anyway, I got specific assurance that there would be 0, nil,
none, zip, zero, nada trace of any sort in any way of anything
connected with this event anywhere in my public or private
record. I also obtained a complete copy of all documents in
the case file. A few interesting things there...
And, I was promised a letter stating that I was not charged
with any wrong doing. I received this letter last week. Before
it arrived, I sent the following letter to my sysop, Cc: to
the whole chain of command above him.
Mr. True has never responded to any of the three or four
emails I have sent him.
One last thing. Out of all the letters sent on my behalf, a
single email missive was abusive. The account where this email
originated was very soon terminated. If anyone ever sends
abusive, obscene or harassing to anyone with reference to me,
I will immediately proceed accordingly, under the law.
Following is the email I sent to San Francisco State University.
______________________ begin email __________________
April 6, 1995
John True
On 17 March, you notified me that you had filed charges against
me for the violation of Student Conduct Code (Title 5, California
Code of Regulations.)
In an email message which I sent after reading your charge,
I asked you upon what evidence did you base this charge.
I presume you do not file Student Discipline Charges without
substantive evidence of wrong doing.
My personal and profesional standing have been put into question
by your charge. The damage done to my reputation is, I feel,
made tangible by your filing of Student Discipline Charges against me.
As you did not respond to my request on 17 March, I am compelled to ask
you once again: Upon what evidence did you file charges against me?
It is in my interest to put this matter to rest. Having charges filed
against me is not a matter I take lightly, as I'm sure you can understand.
In addition to the question of what evidence you based your filing of
Student Disciplinary Charges, I request, and feel I deserve, some
statement of resolution from you or from San Francisco State University
concerning these charges. If the charges you filed against me have
been proved unfounded and untrue, I would appreciate receiving a statement,
in writing, attesting to this.
Thus, I request some statement from you or from the University that I did
not in fact violate Title 5, California Code of Regulations, as you
charged me with.
With the receipt of such a statement detailing my vindication
and the withdrawal of all Charges made against me, based on the facts,
I will consider this matter closed.
Sincerely,
Daniel Davidson
[end]
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"Permitting CSI [Church of Scientology International] to prosecute
a libel claim on every occasion where any Scientology entity is
discussed in a negative light would be too great an imposition
on society's interest in ensuring an open forum for vigorous
public debate."
District Judge Leisure, United States District Court
Nov. 23, 1992
S.D. New York, No. 92 Cov. 3024(PKL)
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= Daniel Davidson =
davidson@sfsu.edu
Don't hit. Clean your mess.
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As of April 17th, the killfile count was as follows:
From: dcs@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (David C Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Spammer Kill Count - 04/17/95
Date: 17 Apr 1995 06:39:10 -0500
Message-ID: <3mtk0u$ag4@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM>
Summary: More Spam Please. Is that for here or to go?
Keywords: Spam Clams Woody Milne Doodyhead Xenu Marcabs Killfile
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Another day, more spam from our favorite spam-bots. Woody checked
in with 48 of his special little messages, and Milne posted a
measly 5 of his distortions.
Milne Kill Count is......... 679!
Woody Kill Count is......... 557!
My guess is that Woody is going to spam right past Milne's
kill count mark, probably within the next 3 or 4 days. To
my surprise, yesterday I received a couple of emails from
Woody concerning killfiles. I've exchanged a couple more
with what seems to be an intelligent version of our favorite
spammer. Now if we could get him to *post* the same way,
instead of rambling about persecution and distortion....
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It's most appropriate to end up with a post from Dennis Erlich, whose
plight brought many of us to a.r.s., and who is still being assaulted on
all sides by the CoS.
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
From: dennis.l.erlich@support.com
Subject: Escalation
Message-ID: <9504161638.0NDAK02@support.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 95 16:38:05 -0700
* this was posted 4/15 but didn't make it to ars *
+---------------------------------+
Faithful Reader (or new friend):
I am Dennis Erlich, that person who had his house raided and his
computer ransacked by the "Church" of Scientology. Knowing the
scienos as I do, I would expect them to escalate their dirty
trick campaign against me ... and they have.
Today I went to draw out $100 from my account. I was denied
access to my money. I was going to buy some pickling cucumbers
at the ranch market and had no cash.
I raced over to my branch and was told that there was a levy on
my account for $40,028.86. They had no further information to
give me.
By sheer persistance and a number of phone calls, I got the
information faxed to me.
My ex-wife, working in concert with the scientology program
directed to silence me speaking out against the cult, had gotten
a San Diego judge to issue the levy without ever notifying me.
The Dan Diego Sheriff's Dept. had gotten the LA County sheriffs
to serve my bank (Bank of America). The bank, without even the
courtesy of a phone call (they have my number) locked my account
for transfer on Monday. I had $1500. Gone.
Oh, and by the way, my ex-wife's new husband is an ex-San Diego
County Sheriff.
While my wife may have a claim to some back payment, it should be
perportional to the rights I have been denied as a father. In
violation of our divorce, she has denied me *any* communication
with my daughter, Holly (whom I love dearly) for the last 8 or 9
years.
I need to know how to block the stripping of my megre assets
without my side of the story being heard.
Can they come and take my computer, my guitar, my tv? Is there
now way to make the bank hold off til I can argue my side to the
judge?
If you can give me any advice, please e-mail me. I need good
advice.
+---------------------------------------+
Rev. Dennis L Erlich * * the inFormer * *
<dennis.l.erlich@support.com>
that person (tm)
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