Path: sn.no!uninett.no!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!193.10.88.100!news00.sunet.se!sunic!mn6.swip.net!seunet!news2.swip.net!news.wineasy.se!postmaster@wineasy.se From: The.Galactic.Federation@ThePentagon.com (Anti-Cult) Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,alt.censorship,comp.org.eff.talk Subject: Re: WARD - AND NET ABUSE SYNDROME Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 00:38:22 +0200 Organization: The Galactic Federation Of United Planets Lines: 241 Sender: The Fifth Galactic Invader Force Distribution: world Message-ID: <3447e833.1984852@193.12.69.3> References: <6287rp$9vi$1@usenet76.supernews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.42.193.62 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: ClamNews:1.6 Xref: sn.no alt.religion.scientology:385365 alt.censorship:170395 comp.org.eff.talk:73532 Reposted due to wgert screwing up the newsgroups line with a period instead of a comma, and that my BT's didn't see that the first time. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Fri, 17 Oct 1997 17:52:24 GMT. wgert@loop.com (wgert). From: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com. Wrote on the subject: WARD - AND NET ABUSE SYNDROME: > >IMHO Ward is suffering from "net abuse syndrome", a new mental illness >which has recently been discovered. It used to be called a "temper >tantrum" but that term is no longer politically correct as it was >found to be discriminatory towards imature children. > [snipped Dead Agenting material from the church of scientology's Office of Special Affairs.] You're threading water now wgert, or William Gertler in California. This action of yours is going to come down heavily on you and your criminal cult. Let's see what your dead cult founder has to say about this: The article that I post this followup to, is posted and written by the criminal organisation of Scientology, or one of it's cultists. This is a perfect example of what the church (spit) calls Dead Agenting. See explanation below. Here's a fair use excerpt of their policy describing HOW to dead agent. - - From HCOPL 21 Nov. 1972 Subject: HOW TO HANDLE BLACK PROPAGANDA A million million variations exist in dead agenting... 4. Handle the Level. Handling interest level is basically an exercise in Tone Scale. (See Tone Scale Charts of Human Emotion.) Agreement occurs at the same emotional tone level as the person making the statement. He buys his facts at that level. To go half a tone up from his level is to command him within his zone of reality. STATEMENT: "It is hopeless trying to believe in anyone. I thought you people were all right but now I hear you are all hippies. (In dull apathy.)" REBUTTAL: "Oh, oh, oh, who could have told you such a sad lie. (Sob)" STATER: "Wouldn't be any use to say." REBUTTER: "(Sob) But you've got to say. Oh, I feel so awful." STATER: "Well, he wouldn't care if I told. It's the local minister." REBUTTER: "(Sob) (Kleenex) What an awful thing to say. Just because we found him dead drunk and took him home to sleep it off, and he said if we ever told he'd say we're hippies." STATER: "What a sad story. Oh, it's a bad world. How ungrateful." You go half a tone up. Give him a story, on the subject or not ... Another One. STATEMENT: "I hear some bad things about your people. (Covert hostility)" REBUTTAL: "(Anger) Who would DARE say such things?" Etc. And story type can be matched in tone. STATEMENT: "I hear those people stole some rowboats." REBUTTAL: "Who said so?" STATER: "The dockmasters son." REBUTTAL: "Oh, him. Gets things wrong. OUR rowboat was stolen! With all the gear in it. We were out fishing and . . . say, you don't suppose HE stole it do you? Did you ever hear of him stealing anything? Has he got a record?" Well, this dockmaster's son will now "have a record" in the stater's tales. As THEFT is of interest to him, crime will be also. - ----end--- Further on... Hubbard had this to say: - ----begin--- "People who engage in black propaganda have big bursting crimes to hide. They do not have little crimes. They have BIG ones." - ----end---- - ----begin---- The less handling, the more disastrous. There is another hard-won truth. ONLY COUNTERATTACK HANDLES. - ----end---- Now... how important are facts in Dead Agenting? Take a gander at this policy: - ---------- HUBBARD COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE Saint Hill Manor, East Grinstead, Sussex HCO POLICY LETTER OF 20 SEPTEMBER 1988 PR SERIES 32 DOCUMENTATION AND THE DEAD AGENT CAPER (taken from tape 7007C30, A SUCCINCT VIEW OF PR) Refs: HCO PL 11 May 71 III PR Series 7 BLACK PR HCO PL 21 Nov. 72 I PR Series 18 HOW TO HANDLE BLACK PROPAGANDA A PR should counter false reports with a minimum of documents or evidence. Never give it a maximum hit. If you have 25 documents, use one. When somebody comes up with an outrageous lie, the PR has to think right away, "How do I dead agent this? What document would it take to knock this out?" Per the dead agent caper, you want to know WHO told him that lie, and you want a document that controverts what he is saying. Then, using a minimum of documentation, you knock the informant into total falsity. L. RON HUBBARD Founder Compilation assisted by LRH Technical Research and Compilations - ------------------- "This is the correct procedure: 1.Spot who is attacking us. 2.Start investigating them promptly for FELONIES or worse using our own professionals, not outside agencies. 3.Double curve our reply by saying we welcome an investigation of them. 4.Start feeding lurid, blood sex crime actual evidence on the attackers to the press." Don't ever tamely submit to an investigation of us. Make it rough, rough on attackers all the way. L. Ron Hubbard, HCOPL 25 Feb 1966 "Attacks on Scientology" So folks, now you understand what the criminal organisation of Scientology is up to. They are simply trying to cover up for their own criminal actions in different countries. BTW: Make a search on AltaVista for Lisa McPherson, you might even add the words killed or murdered in the search. Read the relevant sites, and ask yourself: who murdered Lisa McPherson? Make a search for scientology secrets, while you're at it. That would probably lead you too: http://home.sol.no/~spirous/CoS/ At that URL, you can read all the facts about this criminal organisation that is called the church of scientology, only for tax reasons. You might also want to read about what happened to Grady Ward, and why his account was cancelled at that site: http://home.sol.no/~spirous/CoS/news/gw1.html I might also add, that the so-called cancelbot is working overtime on articles posted to alt.religion.scientology just now. I will repost them if I have them in my database though. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: latin1 Comment: Processed with Enhanced PGPn123 iQCVAgUBNEe7Yq8mVkRT50F9AQH6cAQAjvoJi0JfDDuDGFPc2Fwu7kLzEWaynpMf 1YiRlGy/cXMroWuAgBxY4LPjyb55LB5vjJXFG93QOEvspW8FbeO0JgxUBr8OJBf7 fmvwiqVeEfKYrVYCOqgddg4oKn86YpRTKgohFjmKelZxWn//367NxqHDSAgKJBon wPdXX5xPnl0= =2q/L -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------------------------------------------ "Somebody some day will say 'this is illegal'. By then be sure the orgs say what is legal or not." -- L. Ron Hubbard, HCOPL 4 January 1966 ------------------------------------------------------------------ ***** Body thetans? 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