http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/0311scientologists11.html
Scientology group finds support in Legislature Tinseltown trips linked to anti-psychiatry push
Amanda J. Crawford
The Arizona Republic
Mar. 11, 2006 12:00 AM
A group affiliated with the Church of Scientology has forged close ties with several influential members of the Arizona Legislature as part of a nationwide battle against the mental-health industry.
The Citizens Commission on Human Rights has courted key lawmakers with trips to glitzy Scientologist events in Hollywood. And, observers say, it has been the force behind more than two dozen bills in Arizona in recent years, including measures to restrict prescriptions of Ritalin and mood-altering drugs.
One of the measures pushed by the group is likely to be approved by the state Senate on Monday.
Senate Bill 1477, the psychotropic-drug bill that received preliminary approval this week, would add more state oversight of clinical trials involving tranquilizers and other drugs that affect the mind at state-funded institutions. Supporters say they do not believe people are always informed of the possible side effects of drugs like Prozac and Ritalin.
Opponents counter that the bill is unnecessary because of strict federal oversight of research programs and warn that it is part of a larger campaign by the religious sect to discredit the field of psychiatry.
"They don't believe there is such a thing as mental illness," said Sen. Robert Cannell, the Legislature's only medical doctor. "They have such an influence on the Legislature it is scary."
Star-studded ceremonies
State lobbying records show that the commission has spent thousands of dollars on Hollywood trips for Arizona lawmakers. Over the past two years, legislators have attended celebrity-studded award ceremonies, an anniversary gala at the Celebrity Center church and the grand opening of the commission's museum, Psychiatry: An Industry of Death. Legislators met John Travolta and other high-profile guests and learned more about the church's campaigns and programs.
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But prominent local psychiatrists, mental-health advocates and some legislators say citizens should be alarmed by the influence of the group on state mental-health policy. Although the latest version of the psychotropic-drug bill is considered relatively benign, Dr. Eric Benjamin, head of psychiatry at Phoenix Children's Hospital, fears it could serve as a foothold to discredit the field of psychiatry. He said the commission uses "fear and misunderstanding" to win over supporters in a vendetta against his profession that could deter people from getting the help they need.
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According to church creed, mental-health issues should not be addressed outside a religious setting. In fact, the central practice of Scientology involves counseling sessions called "auditing" in which participants examine their existence and rid themselves of unwanted spiritual conditions to improve their lives. It is a process than can cost tens of thousands of dollars.
When church members rise to higher ranks in the church, they learn a truth that they believe is a cause of human suffering. Though kept secret by the church, the revelation has now been widely published after court documents were made public by the Los Angeles Times in the 1980s. It involves a galactic ruler named Xenu that banished the souls of his enemies to Earth 75 million years ago.
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The Arizona Republic reported:
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/opinions/articles/0315wed2-15.html
All that glitters is not good policy
Mar. 15, 2006 12:00 AM
Arizona's mental health policies should not be written by the Church of Scientology.
That's not exactly a radical statement. But Arizona's Legislature needs to hear it.
Hollywood is not a great place to research best practices in modern psychiatry.
That's another no-brainer. But Arizona lawmakers ought to write it down.
The Scientology-founded Citizens Commission on Human Rights has spent thousands of dollars to take lawmakers to Hollywood to bask in the reflected glow of celebrities and learn Scientology's answer to mental illness.
The result, or maybe it's just a truly amazing coincidence, is ill-conceived legislation.
Sen. Robert Cannell, a medical doctor, says the influence of Scientology's ideas on your lawmakers "is scary."
You bet.
The problem here is not the lobbying. There's no reason a religious group, or any other group, shouldn't be able to make its case to lawmakers.
But lawmakers need to listen to more than one side before drawing up legislation.
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On March 11, 2006 "John Ritson" posted:
On a cold but clear March day, four suppressives (later joined by one more) including one new picketer, turned up outside the Tottenham Court Road 'org' to mark L. Ron Hubbard's birthday. What a dismal sight! No posters on the windows, just a boring row of books and two 'Free Stress Test' signs. Not even the supposedly mandatory 'Now Hiring/Help Wanted' sign. It looked dead and was dead. Not so much an org as a morgue.
We leafleted, and I did my stint at the boom-box, until it developed power problems, so I just had to rely on good old-fashioned lung-power. Most of the time we outnumbered the Scientologists. One chap tried the 'Death Stare' from inside the 'org', was laughed at, and never showed his face again. Another was more persistent, and tried to show his skills at non-blinking. He was more persistent, but also got mocked for wasting his money on taking a course developing such a useless skill. He also tried complaining about the cold and yawning hoping that we would be driven to give up. As with so many Scientology techniques, it might seem to work in the Scientology course-room, but is useless in the real world. He insisted that he could make his own decisions, so we gave him two leaflets (two because Scientology would obviously take the first leaflet away on some plausible pretext) whereupon his Scientology superior ran out to snatch them away from him, just pulling back in time as the gales of laughter revealed that she was behaving in exactly the way we had predicted. The Scientologists eventually brought out a pile of leaflets and put them on a shelf, but never got round to actually trying to give them out. The only criticism we met was from a couple of people who mistook us for Scientologists, and many people thanked us for our efforts. After two hours we retreated to a nice warm pub to discuss our successful day. Returning from the pub at 6:15 the 'org' was completely shuttered up. This is an org on its last legs.
We will be back soon to kick them away.
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"Jens Tingleff" posted:
(Picket report, London, UK, March 11th 2006 [XENU])
Howdy!
Five hardy suppressives: John, Hartley, Tony, myself and new protester "Charlotte," picketed the london org (more like a morgue - ha! ha!) of the criminal organisation known as the "church" spit of $cientology. We were simply trying to do our part to remember the black day of L Ron Hubbard's birth.
The clams were not pre-warned, so we had the pavement to ourselves for quite some time. Maybe to make sure we didn't get too cocky, the boom-box packed it in half-way throught the picket. Someone ought to sort that out, but it's so hard to get good help these days :-(.
When we arrived, there was what looked like one staffer and two public lurking at the back of the very uninviting org. After some furious phoning by the staffer, some staff and public arrived. Our old acquintance Coco showed up and had a chat before moving on. He wondered what my name was and I told him (I'm sure I must have told him before - maybe his memory is not so good; $cientology claims to be able to help him with that, but they're just lying). He asked where Dave Bird was and I told him that Dave was in Birminghem and that the London org was too downstat to merrit a visit. Coco replied "sorry to disappoint you" and I assured him that we'd be back nonetheless.
One public clam who arrived and was briefed by the DSA was a young fellow called "Junior." He was very good at appearing to be nice, and he had certainly mastered the distraction-TR. I let him string me a long for a while and had to struggle to cut the conversation off. I did get him to allow me to ask him questions, such as: was there anything in $cientology that he disagreed with? "no, not yet." I said that struck me as odd, I couldn't think of a reasonable environment where I agreed with *everything*. Junior was very big on making up him own mind (yeah, right), and said that it was his own choice not to read our leaflet. We got him to do an experiment; even thought he had said that he was not going to read our leaflet and we had agreed that he could do that, we persuaded him to pick up two copies and see if the other clams tried to take them away from him. The DSA promptly came over and tried to snatch the leaflets - that made our afternoon.
I kept telling him to look me up on the Internet (he assured me that he had no interest), but if he gets in touch with me I'll officiaslly stop calling him a clam :-).
New protester Charlotte kept up very good leafletting tech and made our viewpoint clear with "Just say NO to $cientology." She handed over hundreds of leaflets to happy passers-by. Respect!
Junior had not done the PTS/SP course, and we said we were sorry that the org was going to make him take it and that we weren't doing it to him - the org was. He said that it would be his decision to take the course (yeah, right).
Nice chap, Junior, and I hope he grows out of being a clam.
We retired to the pub to plan more suppressive merriness.
A Grand Day Out.
Hot off the press, we have the reports / photos from yesterday's L Ron Hubbard birthday demo at http://www.tingleff.org/jensting/duke_tour/muslinger/london0603_a.html
Jens
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"Jens Tingleff" posted:
With only a nominal delay, the Sept 19th auditors day demo from 2005 is on the web at http://www.tingleff.org/jensting/duke_tour/muslinger/london0509_a.html
After a good while for maturing, we have the Oct 22nd 2005 picket (complete with OSA clam asking sticky leafletting clam is he's feeling harassed) at http://www.tingleff.org/jensting/duke_tour/muslinger/london0510_a.html
Better late than never, we have reports/photos from Lisa McPherson day demo 2005 at http://www.tingleff.org/jensting/duke_tour/muslinger/london0512_a.html
Best Regards
Jens
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This is the latest and greatest listing 38 outright lies and heavy insinuations from L. Ron Hubbard to have been a nuclear physicist.
He of course was no such thing, having flunked out of college after 4 semesters, flunking all science and Mathematics courses.
Fresh and hot off of the griddle.
The Claims of Hubbard to be a Nuclear Physicist FAQ
W.C. Barwell October 22, 1997
Update 3-10-2006
Thanks to Jon Atack and Chris Owen for citations
All though Hubbard was booted from George Washington University for failing grades after only four semesters, it did not stop him from repeatedly lying that he was a nuclear physicist. He was proud of the fact that he was supposedly a student in the alledgedly first class in nuclear physics in an American University, although he flunked all science and math courses he ever took. Here is a collection of Hubbard's claims to have been a nuclear physicist. This listing is almost certainly not exhaustive.
1.
"Dianetics: The Modern Miracle".
February 6, 1952
As also found transcribed in the Research and Discovery series.
Old Tech volumes, Vol. 3 page 470
New Tech Volumes. Vol. 5 page 143
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2.
"I happen to be a nuclear physicist; I am not a psychologist nor a psychiatrist nor a medical doctor."
..............
3.
"To some degree, it was my responsibility that this world got itself an atom bomb, because there were only a handful of nuclear physicists in the thirties - only a handful. And we were all beating the desk and saying "How wonderful it will be if we discover atomic fission," because we decided that the thing to do with atomic fission was to go out and discover the stars, to make big passenger liners that would go ten times around the world on the same fuel. This was what we endeavoured to do with atomic fission. The government stepped in and gave us three billion dollars. I had nothing to do with that program; I would *not* have had anything to do with the program. Three billion dollars to destroy all of man."
OEC volume 6, April 14, 1961
Hubbard claims to be a nuclear physicist.
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Travolta's new role is a drag for Scientology
Plus: Tom Cruise continues to jump the couch
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11701187/
By Jeannette Walls
MSNBC
Updated: 11:33 a.m. ET March 9, 2006
John Travolta's decision to play a woman in "Hairspray" has raised eyebrows among some Scientology watchers.
The actor will reportedly dress in drag to take on the role of middle-aged mom Edna Turnblad in the high-camp John Waters film - a part made famous by the notorious cross-dresser Divine. Edna was later played on Broadway by outspoken gay activist Harvey Fierstein.
A recent Rolling Stone article about Scientology reports that its founder, L. Ron Hubbard, felt that gays "should be taken from . society as rapidly as possible" because "no social order will survive which does not remove these people from its midst."
"If Hubbard had historically had his way there would be no John Waters films in America and no gay actors to play the part of Edna Turnblad," notes Rick Ross on Cultnews.com, "which would of course leave Mr. Travolta with no new character role. And it's doubtful that Scientology's savior would find anything appealing about Travolta dressed in drag as Edna Turnblad."
The couch jumping continues
Tom Cruise has a bit of an image problem.
In a recent poll, more people said they'd rather spend the night with Saddam Hussein than the "Top Gun" star. Stuff magazine asked its readers who they would least like to share a camping tent with, and 41 percent chose the couch-jumping star.
Deposed dictator Hussein came in close behind, with 39 percent, 15 percent said Pat O'Brien, and 5 percent chose comedian Kathy Griffin.
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Recently Kobrin has been making settlement noises. I think she is under a lot of pressure to get the Henson cases behind them before something goes off the rails, like the judge rules CSI and RTC are the same entity and lets me depose Warren McShane and Marty Rathbun.
Friday, March 10, there was a hearing in my bankruptcy case. It was the Dezotell motion for nondischargeability long delayed to let me serve interrogatories. David Cook was the only one to put in an appearance, Kobrin, Seid, Luce and one of the other US trustees were there, but none of them wanted to speak. Perhaps they had some idea of what was coming.
First Judge Weissbrodt lambasted RTC for motions they improperly filed that I have not seen yet. I think they failed to take some critical step if they wanted to be considered in this action. I should get the motions by email Monday because Judge Weissbrodt ordered them to send them and to serve me that way in the future.
Then he went into a long monolog about Cook's motion. He talked maybe 15 minutes and had obviously done his homework on the applicable cases. I think I am going to have to get the tape, because it went by too fast and was too full of legal points for me to make notes.
The gist of it though was that the bankruptcy law requirements for particular injury to make a judgment nondischargeable were not met by a 422.6 conviction. The way the 422.6 law reads conviction could be for any one of a number of things. Because there was no evidence given in the civil trial they are going to have to show injury to these three from the criminal trial.
Of course they can reopen the criminal trial and see if they can get a ruling from Judge Wallerstein that the complaining witnesses were injured in the way required by bankruptcy law. Lots of luck fellows.
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Keith Henson
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Here's a picture of four of Hubbard's children:
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/Media/hubbard-kids.html
Clockwise from the top:
Arthur
Quentin: gay; committed suicide
Diana: still serving in the Sea Org
Suzette: wanted to marry Arnie Lerma
-- Dave
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"Tardis Box" posted:
The "middle girl" is Diana:
http://www.freezoneworldwide.com/DianaAll.html
1977: Lt. Cmdr. Diana Hubbard at the Opening Ceremonies of the new LA Complex."
More:
http://www.solitarytrees.net/pubs/bfm/diana.jpg
http://www.spaink.net/cos/colonels/ceremony.jpg
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/Shelf/forte/dianaflg.jpg
Caption:
Diana Hubbard waving the Church flag in one hand and holding the inevitable nicotine stimulant in the other, without which no "Operating Thetan" seems capable of functioning! An accomplished pianist, Diana claims to have been a great friend of Mozart in a previous life."
Taken from:
http://www.spaink.net/cos/colonels/chapter2.htm
Bygone/Hubbard family photo:
http://www.ronsorg.nl/MSH/marysuehubbard.com/msh_lrh_ch.jpg
(quite sad, actually)
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Mark Bunker posted:
[NEW FROM XENU TV: Chef Quits videos]
I haven't made pages for these but here are Matt and Trey on Letterman:
Dial Up:
http://www.xenutv.com/us/dave-chefquits-031506-56k.wvx Play
http://www.xenutv.com/us/dave-chefquits-031506-56k.wmv Download
Cable/DSL:
http://www.xenutv.com/us/dave-chefquits-031506.wvx Play
http://www.xenutv.com/us/dave-chefquits-031506.wmv Download
And the day, before Keith Olbermann did a report on Chef's departure:
Dial Up:
http://www.xenutv.com/us/keith-chefquits-031406-56k.wvx Play
http://www.xenutv.com/us/keith-chefquits-031406-56k.wmv Download
Cable/DSL:
http://www.xenutv.com/us/keith-chefquits-031406.wvx Play
http://www.xenutv.com/us/keith-chefquits-031406.wmv Download
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Gavino,
You may be asking yourself "Why?", "How can this happen?", "I thought I had her firmly in my pocket as an OSA spy".
Firstly, don't ask yourself "why" because it's a listing question.
Secondly, let me tell you how this can happen. I'd hate for you to be stuck in mystery about it.
Some background:
I wanted nothing else than to be an auditor. From the moment I walked into Melbourne Org it was my dream. I wanted to help people and it seemed that by becoming an auditor I could do just that. So I studied really hard and eventually achieved my goals.
Along the way, certain cracks started to appear in my own personal Truman show.
I saw people being hurt. This most ethical group on the planet was hurting both staff and public. The first and most graphic example of this was 6 months prior to the GAT launch. 2 of my closest friends had 6 month old babies and yet were ordered to Flag for 6 MONTHS!! You probably don't care what effect that had on those mothers and their children but I certainly did. I was closely involved in looking after one of those babies whilst his mother was away. I tried to give him as much love & attention as I could because his mother had just dissapeared! When she came back it was awful. The child (he was 1 by that stage) didn't know his mother at all. I'll never forget the look on her face when I first saw her struggling to hold her child who was squirimg and trying to get away from this stranger. It got even worse when her son saw me and started holding out his arms and screaming to go to me. I felt incredibly guilty. Not only had she missed his first steps, his first tooth and the incredible changes that occur in a child under 1 year old, but now the child didn't know her and thought I was his mother. How does a mother cope with that?
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After the GAT was launched I had first hand experience of the cruelties that were dished out. RTC decided that we weren't making auditors fast enough so issued a citation to Melbourne Org.
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On October 31st (I remember this because I was at a halloween party) I got a call from my local OSA office asking if I could log onto the chat channel and log the conversations that were going on. I was assured that these would never be published or used against anyone, but that OSA just wanted to know if the evil SPs were planning anything.
Now I knew what the agenda was.
I got online and told a few trusted people what OSA had asked me to do and a plan was hatched. Little did we know just how far this would go.
A few days later I got a call from an Italian sounding man who called himself "Frank". He said he was from OSA Int and wanted me to send the logs directly to him.
I got back on line and was talking to Patty Pieniadz who I'd gotten to know very well. She told me that OSA suspected her to be Cerridwen because Maureen had already confronted her about it. Being the wild and crazy person she is, she suggested that we give them what they want! This way it throws them completely off the track as to who Cerridwen actually is (Which I still don't know) and we get to have some fun. So we had several conversations where she "admitted" to being Cerridwen. But then she really made me laugh when she says that she's Lagniappe AND the Mailman. She though we could get away with this because they both use remailers. I didn't think "Frank" would buy this but it seems he did! Frank of course was Gavino Idda.
The fun stopped when OSA posted the DA page on Patty. It seems our plan had backfired. I was extremely upset about it but Patty just took it in her stride. Her reasoning was that she had planned to start posting anyway and what she had to say DESERVED a DA page, so it was just a matter of time. It was at that time, if you remember Gavino, that I got very upset with you and told you I wouldn't be your spy any longer. So the game was over.
So why, you may ask, am I coming out now to tell this little tale. It's actually very simple.
Gavino, you promised me that you'd never post or use any logs I sent you. Now, through a forgery of David Touretzky, you have promised to do just that. This exposes another 2 lies you told me. First you told me that OSA don't post to ars, but only OSA had access to that "data". Secondly you said you'd never betray me. But you have. Sort of. I mean there is nothing to betray but you didn't KNOW that until a few hours ago. So if I had trusted you I'd be right in the soup - wouldn't I?
My other reason for coming out now and telling this story is because I'm proud of the work this group does. I'm proud of the guts that people show, especially those who were "in" the longest i.e Patty, Chuck Tory etc. Until now I've been content to stay on the fence. Not really "in" but never having the guts to make that clear. I was always worried about what OSA would do to me, or my marriage or my daughter. Now I see that I have an obligation to tell the truth.
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Emmma
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"David Touretzky" posted:
Readers of this newsgroup are all too familiar with Scientology's attacks on free speech, and thanks to Tory Christman, and now Emma as well, we know who's behind these attacks.
I have a new picture of Gavino Idda, Scientology's Internet terrorist. And he now has his own web page on my site:
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/Gavino/
Gavino mi bambino: your cult is falling apart.
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"Patty Pieniadz" posted:
Gavino is not going to like this. Remember Elaine Siegal?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/099fb05b8911fdd9?hl=en&
The lady with the big plans on handling the internet?
Elaine was at my wedding in 1979. Bobby and I were married by Warren Friske, who was then B1 GO staff for Boston org. Warren was the B1 (invest) CIC - Central Information Center- and was responsible for all the Invest files.
Warren was also a big guy, and the "bouncer" for the Boston Org. He was a nice guy that eventually defected.
Elaine Seigal was Warren's senior and she was invited to my wedding. Elaine was always very careful to make sure that she was never photographed. She made she that my wedding photographer, a really nice Scio named Joe Fougere, did not take her picture. I've also seen her at org events and she was always covering her face when she saw a person with a camera. She told me as B1, she had to make sure that no photo's of her existed.
Gavino, must be upset that he can now be recognized. He has been a behind the scenes kind of guy and does not want people to know what he looks like.
Good going Dave!
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"David Touretzky" posted:
[rest in peace, Philip Gale]
Eight years ago today, on March 13, 1998, Philip Gale committed suicide. He was 19.
Gale was the son of Marie Gale, who at the time was president of the Citizens Commission on Human Rights, an OT VIII, and a thoroughly indoctrinated Scientologist.
CCHR is famous for its attacks on psychiatry and the very concept of "mental illness", while Scientology claims that it has the only "technology" for curing mental problems. That technology obviously failed Philip Gale. (So did antidepressants; he should have gotten better psychiatric care than he received.)
The story was told by Mark Ebner in his essay, "Death of a Net Head": http://hollywoodinterrupted.com/cblog/index.php?/archives/26-Death-of-a-Nethead.html
Marie Gale has retreated from public view and no longer serves as CCHR spokesdroid. I guess it would be too embarassing for her to have to explain why her own son offed himself on L. Ron Hubbard's birthday. She has been replaced by raving loony Bruce Wiseman, who continues to forward Scientology's line about mental illness being a myth.
Rest in peace, Philip Gale. Your name has been erased from Scientology. Only the wogs will remember you now.
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"Simkatu" posted:
http://hollywoodinterrupted.com/cblog/index.php?/archives/26-Death-of-a-Nethead.html
What an ironic way for Gale to celebrate the birthday of L. Ron Hubbard. It was his gift back to his parents for providing him with Scientology instead of treatment.
This reminds me of a few other similar cases where mentally ill patients were denied treatment because of Scientology. In these other cases there were also deaths involved:
see:
http://www.whyaretheydead.net
and
http://perkinstragedy.org
(P.S. I'm still amused that the Church of Scientology (through Sterling Management) purchased the domain name to "whyaretheydead.com" as if that would help them cover up their crimes against Lisa.)
RIP -- Philip Gale -- you are gone, but not forgotten.
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"Susan" posted:
So tragic, the message of committing suicide on Hubbard's birthday.
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"Barb" posted:
[March 13 is a bad day]
1. Hubbard is born
2. Phillip Gale suicides
3. Jeremy Perkins stabs his mother to death
4. Isaac Hayes quits South Park
You should have stayed in bed today!
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[Birthday Game 2006 entry: Letkeman letter to Miscavige about Disconnection and new "Ron the Sociopath" pages]
On March 13, 2006 "Gerry Armstrong" posted:
Webbed with more links at: http://www.carolineletkeman.org/writings/ltr-2006-03-13.html
March 13, 2006
David Miscavige
Religious Technology Center
[address]
[city, state]
Also by e-mail via RTC
Mr. Miscavige:
The following is a partial transcript of Rita Cosby's February 27 interview of your junior Mike Rinder on MSNBC:
COSBY: You know, what about what we were just talking about, this disconnection that we were just hearing about from Janet? Is there something like disconnection, where people basically have a choice between their family and their loved ones or the church.
RINDER: No, there isn't. That's a real misconception that she has. In fact, one of the fundamentals of Scientology is communication, establishing communication, putting families together, reestablishing relationships. And that's something that she will find that a lot of Scientologists do. They establish much better relationships with their family, in fact.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11605079/#storyContinued
You know how cruel Rinder's lie is about disconnection, otherwise you wouldn't have had him say it. In fact, you postulate that this lie is even more cruel than it is, that its effect on the SPs whose disconnections you order is even more shattering than it is. Your ideal scene would be something like all SPs shattered or all SPs shot down like ducks in ponds, yet I and millions more just like me are still here. So reality must remain a couple of inches short of your postulates.
Obviously you'd like your SP victims to be terrified and driven into apathy, since this kind of bald faced lie serves to show you and Scientologists like Rinder as conscienceless and violently dangerous. Nobody not confident in how dangerous to people they have willed themselves to be would state such a patent and cruel lie.
Rinder's lie, and your lie, about disconnection, however, although scary, has not reduced me to apathy, but caused me to write you and to tell the whole world how dishonest and cruel you and Scientology are. As a start, I'm creating a new "Disconnection" section on my site, and will be webbing further materials to expose this practice and do something about ending the hate and harm it engenders.
http://www.carolineletkeman.org/refund/docs/index.html#disconnection
I'm sure you've noticed that Gerry has been indicating that you're a sociopath. As you know, he even had the American Psychiatric Association certify you as a Clear Sociopath.
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Yours resolutely,
Caroline Letkeman
© Gerry Armstrong
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Soul singer Isaac Hayes quits "South Park"
By Steve Gorman
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Soul music veteran Isaac Hayes, the voice of the libidinous character Chef on the satiric cable TV cartoon "South Park," said on Monday he was leaving the show, citing its "inappropriate ridicule" of religion.
"There is a place in this world for satire, but there is a time when satire ends and intolerance and bigotry toward religious beliefs and others begins," Hayes said in a statement issued through his spokesman in New York.
Hayes, 63, a follower of the Church of Scientology, did not mention a "South Park" episode that aired last fall poking fun at Scientology and some of its celebrity adherents, including actor Tom Cruise.
Rather, the statement said the show's parody of religion is part of what Hayes sees as a "growing insensitivity toward personal spiritual beliefs" in the media generally, including the recent controversy over a Danish cartoon depiction of the Muslim Prophet Mohammad.
The soul singer, who became the first black composer to win an Academy Award for best song with his theme to the film "Shaft," said he formally asked to be released from his contract with "South Park," on the Comedy Central cable channel.
A spokesman for the Viacom Inc.-owned network said producers of the show and its creators, Trey Parker and Matt Stone, had agreed to not to "enforce" Hayes' contract.
"Obviously, Matt and Trey are disappointed that he's not going to be part of the show, but they're not going to make him do something he doesn't want to do," the spokesman, Tony Fox, told Reuters.
However, he said Stone and Parker "feel that it's a bit disingenuous (for Hayes) to cite religious intolerance as a reason for him pulling out of the show" because the series has lampooned religion since the start, dating back to the short film, "The Spirit of Christmas," on which the series is based.
"Their premise is as long as you can make fun of everybody, then everybody is a potential target," Fox said. "The minute you start pulling punches, than the show's reason for being sort of gets compromised."
The crudely animated cartoon, heading into its 10th season next week as one of Comedy Central's biggest hits, centers on the antics of four foul-mouthed fourth graders in the town of South Park, Colorado. In one episode last fall, one of the gang, Stan, scores so high on a test conducted by the Scientologists that they think he is the next L. Ron Hubbard, the late science-fiction writer who founded the religion.
In an interview with Reuters late last year, Hayes talked about a foundation he formed to bring Scientology-based study techniques to underperforming inner-city schools in America, in partnership with fellow devotee Lisa Marie Presley.
"But it's not religious," he said then. "It's just something that people need." Hayes described himself as a Baptist by birth who has spent 14 years as a follower of Scientology.
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From Sploid:
http://www.sploid.com/news/2006/03/chef_quits_over.php
Chef quits over Scientology jabs
Beloved cartoon character "Chef" is leaving the television comedy "South Park" because it mocks religions.
But the show's creators say that's a bunch of nonsense, and that Chef is only leaving the show because "South Park" recently tore apart Scientology, the space-alien money cult that has ensnared several popular entertainers.
In real life, Chef is 63-year-old soul singer Issac Hayes, who was popular in the 1970s for his Oscar-winning blacksploitation theme song, "Shaft."
He's also a dedicated Scientologist.
"Religious beliefs are sacred to people, and at all times should be respected and honored," Hayes said today, according to the Associated Press. "As a civil rights activist of the past 40 years, I cannot support a show that disrespects those beliefs and practices."
But Hayes didn't seem to have a problem until the religion being destroyed by "South Park" was his own bizarre space-monster cult.
Matt Stone, who created the show with Trey Parker, says Hayes gladly went along with scripts that skewered all the popular religions practiced by billions of people, including Christianity, Catholicism, Judaism, Mormonism, Buddhism and Islam.
Scientology has about 100,000 followers and another half-million ex-Scientologists, according to Adherents.com.
Stone says he "never heard a peep out of Isaac in any way until we did Scientology. He wants a different standard for religions other than his own."
In fact, the "South Park" creators told GQ magazine this year that they had delayed parodying Scientology despite the incredible comedic possibilities -- and they did it all for Hayes!
"To be honest, what kept us from [parodying Scientology] before was Isaac Hayes. We knew he is a Scientologist and he's an awesome guy. We were like, 'Let's just avoid that for now,'" Parker told GQ.
"Finally, we just had to tell Isaac, 'Dude, we totally love working with you and this is nothing personal, it's just we're 'South Park,' and if we don't do this, we're belittling everything else we've ripped on.'"
In a January interview with the Onion's AV Club, Hayes said vicious satire was "their thing" and that he just laughed at it.
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From World Net Daily:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49250
[Isaac Hayes quits 'South Park' after spoof on Scientologists Creator says 'he's cashed plenty of checks with our show making fun of Christians']
Outspoken Scientologist Isaac Hayes, an Oscar-winning singer heard by millions in recent years as the "Chef" character on "South Park," has quit the cartoon four months after an episode spoofing Scientology.
"There is a place in this world for satire, but there is a time when satire ends and intolerance and bigotry towards religious beliefs of others begins," the 63-year-old soul singer said in a statement.
"Religious beliefs are sacred to people, and at all times should be respected and honored," he continued, never mentioning the Scientology episode, but citing the recent controversy over cartoon depictions of the prophet Muhammad. "As a civil-rights activist of the past 40 years, I cannot support a show that disrespects those beliefs and practices."
In an interview with the Associated Press, "South Park" co-creator Matt Stone responded sharply, saying, "This is 100 percent having to do with his faith of Scientology. ... He has no problem - and he's cashed plenty of checks - with our show making fun of Christians."
He said he and co-creator Trey Parker "never heard a peep out of Isaac in any way until we did Scientology. He wants a different standard for religions other than his own, and to me, that is where intolerance and bigotry begin."
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"Andreas Heldal-Lund" posted:
The 2006 March 13th issue of Time Magazine features 10 Questions with Matt and Trey. Here's a quote:
"WHAT WAS SCARIER: THAT TOM CRUISE MIGHT SUE YOU OR THAT SEAN PENN MIGHT PUNCH YOU? T.P. Well, Sean Penn is about 4 ft. 3 [M.S. laughs], so I'm definitely not scared of him. We're both fairly large guys. M.S. Yeah. I'm not scared of Sean Penn or Tom Cruise physically. Now legally, that's a different story."
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"Tikk" posted:
It's notable that Hayes had no problem with the Scientology episode in January of this year. From an interview with The Onion's AV Club on Jan 4, 2006 (http://www.avclub.com/content/node/44132/2):
AVC: They did just do an episode that made fun of your religion, Scientology. Did that bother you?
IH: Well, I talked to Matt and Trey about that. They didn't let me know until it was done. I said, "Guys, you have it all wrong. We're not like that. I know that's your thing, but get your information correct, because somebody might believe that shit, you know?" But I understand what they're doing. I told them to take a couple of Scientology courses, and understand what we do. [Laughs.]
This is bolstered by the fact that as recently as last week, he was reportedly fine with the episode. From Wikipedia
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Hayes):
In a radio interview a week prior to the announcement on the XM Radio show Opie and Anthony, Hayes said he was not particularly offended by the episode because of the level of satire people have come to expect from the show.
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So there was a change of heart at some point, and if the Wikipedia blurb is correct, that change of heart came very recently.
Not that this is necessarily related, but it's of some interest that he entered a Memphis hospital for "exhaustion" on January 18th:
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"Ramona" posted:
I thought it might me interesting to note some of the previous Southpark episodes that didn't bother "chef" Isaac Hayes in the past.
http://www.spscriptorium.com/SPBios/ChefSings.htm
Episode 209: Chef's Salty Chocolate Balls - Eponymous
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Liz Kelly, Celebritology Columnist from the Washington Post Blogspot reported:
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/celebritology/
For Isaac Hayes, Delayed Offense
It is with some trepidation that I write about Isaac Hayes and his schism with "South Park," because although I love "South Park," I'm not a religious watcher. There are probably some really good episodes I could've referenced to bolster this posting, if I had only known, so please, add any I might have missed into the comments section below.
For anyone not already familiar with the story, Hayes, who for nine years has voiced the character Chef on the Comedy Central animated series, quit Monday citing the show's disrespectful treatment of religion.
"There is a place in this world for satire," said Hayes, "but there is a time when satire ends and intolerance and bigotry towards religious beliefs of others begins." For Hayes, that time was apparently November 2005, when an episode poking fun at Scientology aired; years after the show's reputation for ridiculing Catholics, Mormons, gays, the military, Christmas, potheads, Michael Jackson, and pretty much anything else was well cemented.
"South Park" co-creator Matt Stone tells the Associated Press that he "never heard a peep out of Isaac in any way until we did Scientology. He wants a different standard for religions other than his own, and to me, that is where intolerance and bigotry begin."
Hayes has been a willing participant in what is arguably one of the crudest shows on cable TV for almost a decade. The character he played routinely sang songs like "The Prostitute Song" and "Sometimes You Kill Your Teacher." Not that there's anything wrong with that. But to suddenly grow a conscience smacks of hypocrisy.
If I were Hayes' publicist (or, like, Church of Scientology handler), I'd be spinning pretty hard right now to get him to reconsider. Resigning shortly after an episode poking fun at Scientology can't help but be viewed as knee jerk and intolerant. It would be like Robin Quivers suddenly disapproving of Howard Stern's jokes about African-Americans, his continued bits with KKK member Daniel Carver or denouncing his naked stripper guests as denigrating to women. Or like Isaac Hayes decrying "Shaft" as blaxploitation.
The Post's Gene Weingarten sums it up nicely: "a central problem here for the Scientology spinners, is that Hayes's action makes Scientologists look like what many, many people assume they are: intolerant, humorless, and under the thrall of a demonic, soul-eating cult that brooks no dissent."
Conveniently, the Scientology-lampooning episode, "Trapped in the Closet" is set to air again tonight on Comedy Central. Dismissed as coincidence.
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The Boston Globe reported:
http://www.boston.com/ae/celebrity/articles/2006/03/15/scientollywoods_a_list/
Scientollywood's A list
You can take the Scientologist out of the hit show, as singer-actor Isaac Hayes demonstrated this week by quitting the ''South Park" cast over an episode that satirized his religion. But taking show biz out of Scientology is a trickier proposition, given the number of celebrities who've been advertising their ties to the controversial church lately.
[...]
''The Simpsons" aired its own sendup of a Scientology-like sect in a 1998 episode revolving around a group called the Movementarians.
Recruits are promised a ride to the planet Blisstonia, but Marge leads her family out of the cult's clutches with the help of deprogrammers.
Hayes played Chef (inset) on ''South Park" for nine irreverent years, during which the show mocked virtually every religious group under the sun. Nevertheless, he asked to be contractually released Monday, saying, ''Religious beliefs are sacred to people, and at all times should be respected and honored."
On at least one ''South Park" message board yesterday, Hayes's departure seemed to elicit few tears. ''Now that he's left," wrote one poster to www.1up.com, ''all I can think is, what a hypocrite. He doesn't care when every one else gets [parodied], but when it's his religion, he quits. What a big baby."
Just another day in Scientollywood.
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The Simon reported:
Quote:
"But I'll tell you what - if you're having a hard time with it, I'll make it easier for you. How about we change the proposal so that we can officially censure President Bush and Isaac Hayes? I mean, I think Hayes was totally hilarious as Chef on South Park, but leaving that show just because they made fun of Scientology is way crappy, and everybody totally knows it. I mean, he didn't say anything when they were making fun of Christians and Jews and Santa Claus - he's just mad because he's a Scientologist. And nobody even likes Scientology after listening to Tom Cruise go all nuts about it on couches. Cruise used to be totally cool, too - but I swear to God he's turning into the next Michael Jackson, right? Seriously."
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"Lagniappe" posted:
According to a very reliable inside source. DM gave an ultimatum to Isaac Hayes:
"Resign or get declared" and Isaac was really angry about the situation and resisted their order. That's why it took so long for him to finally leave South Park.
Isaac is very much a 'churchie' and has no idea what is going on inside the Cof$ and this was not a personal decision but a 'management' decision because "they are SPs"!
At first he was labelled PTS and was ordered to 'handle or disconnect'.
Isaac was furious that the Cof$ was trying to order him about his career but he finally gave in and left SP (South Park)
I also heard he tried to appease them by donating thousands of dollars to Scn but DM did not budge.
As we all know this has caused a really bad PR for the Cof$ and for Isaac as well, but we also know that DM is an expert at bad PR.
Poor Isaac he really is not a hypocrite he is simply PTS and he has the wrong item. Thanks to Davey his PR in Hollywood now sucks.
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[Thanx $cientology Cult]
For sending Religious Feedom Watch mail to a workplace of someone I know at work -
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pictures posted to abs
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"Barb" posted:
Reports are that RFW is sending out hard copies of its libellous pages on Scientology "enemies." The postmark on the envelopes are from "No VA" (North Virginia, no such state) but the return address is Pasadena California.
Sending libel through the mails...this will be a footbullet, should they ever send one out that interfers with a critic landing a job, or renting housing, etc.
Hard copy...superbly bad move, Scientology!
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"Andrew Robertson" posted:
This is interesting. The infamous dildo letters sent to Valerie, Claire, Barbara and Garry were also mailed from Virginia.
2 NO VA 220
The postmark that Feisty posted also reads NO VA 220.
Perhaps it's just a coincidence that 'Truth Seeker' lives in Spring Avenue, Salisbury, Maryland which is only a short drive away from a convenient northern Virginia Post Office.
It's certainly his style though.
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"l. lipshitz" posted:
northern virginia postal district, for the virginia suburbs of washington, dc. zip codes start with 220--.
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"Simkatu" posted:
"No VA" is the Northern Virginia postal sorting facility.
It is the same location from where Barbara Schwarz (and everyone else) received her "porn invoice".
http://www.usenet.com/newsgroups/soc.college/msg00141.html
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"Barb" posted:
Please, save the envelope and contents. Also note to whom the letter was sent. This could come in handy. If anyone reports receiving one, have them save it for you.
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"Damned Clams" posted:
A very good idea.
After all, the owner of that stupid site is already on record as saying they don't have any obligation to tell the truth about people.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/f6e12b1300c60840
SPECIAL INTERROGATORY NO. 1:
http://www.xenutv.com/andreas/index.html
File name: andreas1.rm
Transcript of exchange with Tory Christman (TC) and Joel Philips (IP)
TC: Why won't you take down the lies about me - when they're absolute lies?
JP: You show me where they are. I-i-if (stutters) they're on my site
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TC: They're on "Religious Freedom Watch". That whole site -
JP: Yeah...
TC: Those are lies about me. They are *absolute* lies - four pages of lies!
JP: You prove to me that that's the case.
TC: They're there! There's nothing to prove! You prove to me that it's true! They're lies!
JP: (stutters, interjects) I don't have to. We don't have that obligation.
Is this transcript an accurate representation of what you said?
Yes____ No_____
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for Domain Name: religiousfreedomwatch.com is
Joel Phillips
Is this information correct?
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I've also been studying sociopathy recently, and, although I have not quite come to the same conclusion about your psychology, your willful serial lying and cruelty would, I think, lead any reasonable researcher or psychological professional toward that diagnosis.
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Isaac Hayes Quits South Park Show because of "Trapped in the Closet" Episode
On March 13, 2006 Reuters reported:
http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/news/2006-01-18-hayes-hospitalized_x.htm
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If you ever need a quick pick-me-up, just stick my balls in your mouth
Ooooo, suck on my cho-colate salty balls put 'em in your mouth
Put 'em in your mouth and suck 'em and suck 'em...
BY JOSEPH P. KAHN
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RFW Snailmail Attacks
On March 14, 2006 "Feisty" posted:
PM
06 AUG
2003
From time index: 09:51.80
and
Administrative Info:
[address, e-mail]
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South Park reported censored
from:
[long link]
or
http://tinyurl.com/z8m44
Report: Blame Cruise For Yanked 'South Park' Repeat
Fans of South Park were disappointed last night when a scheduled rerun of the show's infamous, Scientology-mocking "Trapped in the Closet" episode, in which Tom Cruise locks himself in new Hubbardite savior Stan's closet, was quietly yanked. The Hollywood Interrupted blog reports that a threat from Cruise himself may have been behind the episode's sudden disappearance:
"Sources from inside Paramount and South Park Studios report that parent company Viacom pulled last night's scheduled repeat of the high-rated "Trapped in the Closet" episode after the humorless Scientologist movie star Tom Cruise threatened to cancel all publicity for Mission Impossible:3 if Comedy Central aired the episode that satirizes Scientology and mocks his sexuality again.
Not only is this the first time that the South Park creators have been officially censored in their ten hit seasons with Comedy Central, Viacom officials also reportedly ordered Matt Stone and Trey Parker not to discuss the reason why their episode was cancelled.
The South Park boys are said to be angry, but will probably get revenge with the manner in which they deal with Scientologist Isaac Hayes' departure from the show."
[...]
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