Presenting Rod Keller's
Alt.religion.scientology Week in Review

Volume 5, Issue 19 - August 20 2000


Greg and Debra Barnes

Stacy Brooks reported this week that Greg and Debra Barnes have received a refund of their membership fees in the International Association of Scientologists. "After they were declared, the Barnes wrote a letter to the IAS, which is the International Association of Scientologists, asking for their money back. They had both paid for lifetime memberships, a total of more than $40,000." From a letter to the IAS: "The IAS is an enforced membership that if anyone is to do services as long as we did and went as 'OT' as we did you have to become members. The additional donations are harassed out of you with alarming tales of the tech being 'attacked' or needed 'publications' to alert the populace of the dangers of what ever the flavor of the month dangerous environment you guys dream up is. We gave to your organization based upon the false reports by your representatives of the German Scientologists being persecuted by ex-Nazi Psychiatrists, when in actuality according to all the German Scientologists I spoke with at the Sand Castle, it was the financial irregularities and out 2-D activities of org executives in Germany as well as poor results, that created the attacks, which your representatives failed to mention conveniently. "We gave to your organization without knowing of Fair Game still being practiced by the GO...oops we meant OSA. We gave to your organization without knowing that Mike Rinder's opinion of spiritual sustenance was holding my friend [Lisa McPherson] down and forcing a concoction of illegally obtained drugs down her throat. Evidently you guys found some other lost tech that we did not know about. The fact that orgs in Germany, France, Russia and Spain are on life support and the fact that the 'Church of Scientology' is on the way out in Europe is evidence of your hat not being worn regarding protecting Scientology. Some how I do not think that LRH envisioned your actions or inaction as the 'Aims of Scientology' he was talking about. "I would think that an organization of such an 'ethical purity' with such a crusade for 'Total Freedom' would be insulted to want to keep the money of such people who think of you as we do. I would think that you would be glad to be free of the funds we gave you and wash your pure hands of our despicable association." The Barnes received their refund after signing a waiver document. "That we, our heirs, our successors, representatives, agents, employees, attorneys and assigns release and forever discharge the International Association of Scientologists, IAS Administrations, and their respective successors, agents, officers, directors, divisions, shareholders, trustees, fundraisers and employees from any and all claims, damages, causes of action of any kind which we now have or may hereafter have, from the beginning of time, to and including the effective date of this release." From Debra Barnes: "We have $32K in unused services from Flag. In the most recent release/wavier that they want us to sign before disbursing this money we would have to give up all rights to any future claims we may have. We object to this due to the evidence that in the past, the church cranks up its fair game machine after people have signed this type of release leaving you with no legal recourse. The big question is 'why won' they do a simple release like the IAS release we signed?' If they would quite breaking the law and harming people there would be no claims to be made. I don't think they get it - so I guess we will have to drive our point home with a picket. WISE, who ripped us off of $1000 has finally agreed to pay when we threatened them with small claims court. Check has not been received as of yet. Also, the SuperPower Building Project was just sent a letter requesting our $85 back - I wonder what kind of release they will want for this small amount." Message-ID: 75krpscjchahhq6g0uatqlti2g8fjq1ct7@4ax.com Message-ID: 8nl7vt$1tnk@drn.newsguy.com

Clearwater

Jeff Jacobsen spoke before Clearwater's City Council this week. "I didn't know how far Scientology's influence has spread in this community just from visiting once a year. But I've seen the influence now. Scientology gets away scot-free after the death of Lisa McPherson, while critics of Scientology are enjoined from even walking on certain sidewalks in Clearwater. A Scientologist hits a critic's video camera with a hammer and the police do nothing. A picketer is assaulted not once but twice by a Scientologist, and despite the assaults being on video tape from different angles, the Scientologist is not arrested. "Just a few weeks ago a German official from Hamburg came to town. I was at the airport when about 30 Scientologists greeted her with shouts of 'Nazi Go Home!' and attempted to manhandle her. I was there when the Scientology attorney came demanding that she be deposed in a case she has nothing to do with at the exact time she had already scheduled a news conference. Ms. Ursula Caberta has gone home after having been viciously treated by Scientology, and let me assure you that the European media, starting with Der Spiegel, have already begun to paint Clearwater as German-hating and nuts. I suspect you are going to be seeing fewer German tourists around here now, thanks to the actions of Scientologists. Maybe when Europe's tourists boycott our wonderful community, the hit in your pocketbooks might wake you up to reality." Message-ID: 399c6db2.119614738@news2.lightlink.com

IRS

Forbes magazine published an article on a Los Angeles man's quest to have the same tax deductions as a Scientologist. "Los Angeles accountant Michael Sklar was shelling out $24,000 a year to send his four children to Jewish day schools in 1994 when a four-line Internal Revenue Service ruling caught his eye. The November 1993 edict declared 'obsoleted' the IRS' 1978 ruling barring members of the Church of Scientology from deducting the 'fixed donations' they paid for religious education and 'auditing'. The Orthodox Jew decided to write off 55% of his tuition bills, based on the proportion of time his children's schools said was spent on religious courses. "In April U.S. Tax Court Special Trial Judge Larry L. Nameroff ruled that Sklar hadn't shown he was in the same position as members of the Church of Scientology. He was denied all his religious-education deductions, including the $75 he paid for a special after-school class in the Talmud. Sklar is appealing. Former IRS commissioner Sheldon S. Cohen doesn't give him much chance, in part because his kids went to a school that mixed religious and secular education. But the case does point out a glaring inequity that has existed since 1993, when the IRS cut a controversial deal with the Church of Scientology. "'The IRS realizes that giving in to Scientology was a mistake, and they don't want to extend that mistake,' says former IRS commissioner Donald C. Alexander. 'The result is most taxpayers are unfairly treated.' 'My main concern is to get equal treatment,' says Sklar, who adds he has no beef with Scientologists. Cohen argues that taxpayers who send their children to purely religious after-school training can rightfully claim the deduction in light of the IRS' deal with Scientology. For now, non-Scientologists who want to deduct religious studies just have to pray that Cohen is right. Or convert." Message-ID: 8F94D2DFAmirelexmissioncom@198.60.22.3

Keith Henson

Keith Henson reported this week that Scientology is trying to get his house as part of his copyright violations judgment. "Last night a process server came to my door with mess of paper which measured real close to 6 inches thick. It was a 25 page motion to dismiss or convert my bankruptcy to chapter 7, which would force the sale of my house and leave me with no point in working because Co$ could take every penny I make." Message-ID: 8nhfdk$1ce$1@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net

Used Clothing

The Los Angeles Times reported on August 18th that Scientology donated used clothing to a nursing home. "Eight bags stuffed full of clothes were delivered to the New Vista Nursing and Rehabilitation Center in Sunland. Clothing was gathered and donated by members of the Women's Auxiliary of the Church of Scientology to fulfill part of the wish list given them by the center. 'We're glad to have the opportunity to give something back to these people, who have all been productive, contributing citizens,' said Flavia Taylor, executive director of the Church of Scientology Mission of the Foothills in Montrose." Message-ID: 8njh3a$t3d$1@nnrp1.deja.com

Lisa McPherson Trust

Stacy Brooks reported some of the cases the Lisa McPherson Trust has been involved in recently. "Recently we helped a woman get out of Scientology. She took her child with her, a child who at a very young age had already been recruited into the Sea Org. The woman's mother has been in the Sea Org for a long time. She came to the woman's house, extremely upset that the woman had left but particularly upset that she had taken her child out of the Sea Org. Then the woman's mother pulled the child aside and in all seriousness urged the child to file for legal emancipation from the parents so that the child, who is underage, could go back into the Sea Org. I asked the woman to fax me a copy of the tape excerpt her mother had given her. "'The GE is a family man; the GE is lost without a family. It's very strange, but Homo sap is a family unit. The GE is built on that basis. It's not important to know it but a lot of your urges toward families and so forth are not thetan urges at all, they're the GE. And you get your GE surviving best and being loused up the most because of interfamily relationships. And your thetan, by the way, can much more easily go into a group. Families are not good groups; they're bad groups.' "The Genetic Entity is the part of a person that is still tied to the universe of Matter, Energy, Space and Time that we will leave behind when we are able to become stably exterior with full perceptics. Obviously, for someone who has it in their head that they are trying to leave the MEST Universe behind, the Genetic Entity is something from which one would have to distance oneself. In fact, there is an insulting slang term in Scientology for someone who is too much into their body, or too much into their family. A person like that is considered to be 'stuck in the GE.' When LRH said in the tape excerpt was that anyone who puts any importance on the family is going in a direction toward MEST, not Theta. That is an out-ethics thing to do. "Recently a woman contacted the LMT for help. She and her husband had two beautiful teenage children. By the time she spoke to me, her husband had gotten them nearly $100,000 in debt. He wanted a divorce because she didn't want to be a Scientologist. He refused to speak to either of this children because they didn't want to be Scientologists. When she begged him to speak to someone with a different point of view about Scientology he told her he would disappear and never contact her again if she ever tried to put him in contact with someone critical of Scientology. She and her children are heartbroken over the loss of a man who was once a wonderful husband and father. "Another woman contacted the LMT recently about her sister, who has just joined the Sea Org. The sister has two children. Now that she is in the Sea Org, the children have been sent to the Sea Org children's ranch north of Los Angeles. They never get to see their mother. They have been sneaking phone calls to their aunt, tearfully asking their aunt why their mother doesn't love them any more. The mother, meanwhile, fully believes that her children are a distraction from her production and that it is necessary to separate from them so that she can realize her full potential. "The most hopeful thing of all at the LMT is that we are getting calls every day from Scientologists who are making the decision to embrace their Constitutional rights of freedom of speech, freedom of thought and freedom of association. They are going on the internet despite orders from the Organization not to. They are regaining their powers of critical thought and deciding for themselves which parts of Scientology they want to embrace. And they are beginning to rebuild their own shattered lives and broken families." Message-ID: cv9epsgfnuu1evhg6m65ihb7c1s6b6usu5@4ax.com

Tom Padgett

Mike Gormez posted an update on Tom Padgett, in a Kentucky jail as a result of a family court case with his wife, who is still a Scientologist. "Tom is still in jail. He has to go back next Tuesday the 22nd for sentencing. The rumor is that the other side wants to come to a settlement, but that remains to be seen. The money was there yesterday to pay for the minor child's future child support, but that was not what the court wanted. They apparently said that Tom did not live up to his diversion plea." "He wants to thank everyone for the letters and clothing, which is really coming in handy. He is being held on a 50,000 bail in maximum security." Message-ID: 39a09a1d.5261315@news.a2000.nl Message-ID: 399988a6.789343@news.a2000.nl

Protest / Revenge Summary

Brent Stone reported a protest at Gold Base this week. "Today I had the chance to stroll down Highway 79 just outside Hemet again, along with Keith and our two pull-toys Ed and Frank. It started out like any other day of a nice walk in the desert, with a deserted prison encampment all around us, razor wire facing inward, armed guards, and security cameras everywhere. "My son was off on a camping trip, and my other roommate decided to leave my house unattended. Knowing that the 'church' would probably be pulling another illegal picket of my residence, I was a bit worried. I mentioned to Ida that I had not slept well, and told her of my worries. When we got to the fortress, we were greeted with the normal abuse and wild accusations of our criminal and immoral characters. First Frank started asking me how my house in San Jose was. Then he asked me why I couldn't sleep last night. Later on, Ed took up the questioning; did you sleep well last night, Mr. Stone? Where is your son? Is your house OK down there in San Jose? How long would it take you to drive from here to San Jose, several hours? It's a nice day for burning, isn't it? "I decided to call some people in San Jose, and went to talk to Keith. They would not let us talk in private, and insisted on putting their video camera about two feet from my face. We went to the car to talk, while they filmed, and were told by Frank that their expert lip reader would be analyzing the tape. They seemed very pleased to have found a 'button'. Unfortunately, this 'button' only works once, since I have taken corrective actions." "The funniest part of their picketing my home last time was the new 'button' they got out of it. The poor scared kid they sent out gave my son one of their 'religious bigot' flyers. My son made a comment something like 'Sure, my dad's a religious bigot'. Sarcasm as we know goes way over the heads of certain nut-cultists, so now I get grilled about 'my relationship with my son' who 'thinks I'm a religious bigot' all the time. It gets really funny listening to poor Ed, all 'concerned' about how my son feels about me." Keith Henson reported some of the conversation with the thugs at a Gold Base protest. "Thugs Edwin Richardson and Frank Petty 'interviewing' me while I picket the scientology base North of Hemet California. "'Mr. Minton supplying you with ... in exchange for possibly paying for the college education? How much is a college education right now at one of the colleges? Strictly as a question, any money put in some account for Amber that should have been declared to the bankruptcy court? Is Mr. Minton supplying money to pay for the college education? Would that be part of his exchange for your exercising your first alleged first amendment right? I've got a tape going here. would you grant me permission to interview Amber. Would your wife so to consent? "'What would make you feel safer for her? How about security over at the college? She involved in molestation? What would she have to say about that? What dorm is she staying in? Did she choose that university or did you. Amber going to do work study? Or are you going to have her come out with you and picket on the weekends? And Minton can pay both of you. Do you know where Amber is going to be in three days? Did you perform incest acts with Amber? Do you molest Amber?" "'I would think it would be a lot easier instead of a deposition if that makes you more comfortable rather than an interview by an investigator. Do you think she would have something good to tell the court? Do you think the bankruptcy court would be interested in taking a deposition of Amber? Think Berry would help you out in deposition? Does she know anything about the request for 5 million dollars?'" Keith also protested in San Jose this week. "I was in San Jose today so the Los Gatos org over on Bascom and the Steven's creek org on Rosemary got token pickets of 10 and 15 minutes. Los Gatos was in hiding mode because they shut the blind to keep from seeing me. I think there might have been only one person in today at 11:40." Kristi Wachter reported revenge picketing for her participation in protests at the San Francisco org. "A neighbor mentioned that Craig had been by over the weekend for another revenge picket. My neighbor said it was just him and his sign. As I understand it, the purpose of Craig's pickets is to get me to stop protesting Scientology. If that's the case, I would think it would behoove him to make sure I know when he comes by. If it weren't for this neighbor's offhand comment, I would never have known Craig had visited." "Barb" and David Rice protested in San Diego this week. "This was very low-key, shydavid and I only gave out 4 fliers. The first recipient commented on our 'Kills' T-shirts, and explained that he was a nondenominational, non-prosyletizing Christian. 'I thought everyone in California was a Scientologist,' he told us. We assured him that this is certainly not the case, and gave him copies of the Xenu and 'Cult in your neighborhood?' fliers, and told him to spread the word. "An older Czech gentleman pointed out that from his perspective, we could have been high echelon Scientologists promoting our cult by using the slang 'Kills' as a positive message, as in the use of the word 'Killer.' 'That was a killer wave!'" John Ritson protested in London this week. "I joined two other suppressives (each armed with an inflatable alien) for a couple of hours leafleting, picketing and slogan-shouting outside the Tottenham Court Road 'Org'. We definitely controlled the situation, with only the occasional miserable-looking Scientologist (plus a small girl) pushed out to hand out copies of 'Freedom'. The local street-cleaner came past with his bin containing plenty of 'Freedom's but none of our leaflets. Complete support from the passers-by. Hardly any traffic into the 'Org' apart from the half-a-dozen known Scientologists. This was the third successive week on which there have been mini-pickets at Tottenham Court Road." "Ethercat" and "Mad Cow" protested in Atlanta this week. "Aug. 19, 2000, 10:30 am till Noon. Wynot and I arrived a little before 10:30 with our flyers, signs, videocamera, cheapo digital camera, and some top secret equipment. After a few minutes, Mad Cow arrived. Ox was expected at 11, but was a few minutes early. The org has installed a box for pamphlets by the sidewalk with copies of the 'What is Scientology?' brochure. I guess this must be their only method of body routing since they moved from downtown, now that there's no foot traffic past the org. There is a very large 'NOW HIRING' sign hanging below the regular co$ sign. "Chad from the Associated Press arrived right on schedule, bringing a photographer with him. As we picketed, he spoke with each of us about our reasons for picketing. We gave him our individual personal reasons, our flyers, and a list of DeKalb Co. and Georgia ordinances which have been broken by co$ as we picketed. We told him about the illegal revenge picket at my house. After Susan arrived around 11:30, Chad spoke with her for a few minutes, told me he'd let us know when the article comes out, and then the two journalists left. "Susan showed great concern for our well being in the heat, asking if we would be leaving soon and if we were drinking plenty of water. I told her, that yes, we would be leaving soon, that we couldn't let them think their OTs had killed us with a thought. She said, 'Oh, no, we wouldn't want that!' A guy in a pickup truck asked us why we thought L.Ron Hubbard was a liar. Since the light had changed, we handed him a flyer pack, and then another car rolled down the window to ask for flyers. "One of our previous picketers has agreed, at X-Friend's request, to not picket anymore. This is contingent on her and her family not being harassed by co$. I am saddened, but I understand her position. Her husband, also a previous picketer with us, is not in good health at this time, and neither of them need the additional stress. However, she still holds her own opinions, and has not made any agreements to quit talking." "During the picket we counted around 127 or so positive responses from the public at large. No handlers came out to handle us. A youngish guy walked up to us to ask about the picket. I think he came out of the org but I'm not sure. We gave him the usual info and a URL card. He then turned and shuffled into the org. A lady walked up to ask about the cult. She mentioned she was a Christian, so I gave her the 'There was no Christ' quote. She was aghast. They won't get any money out of her. Flyer pack and URL card for her." Mark Bunker and Jeff Jacobsen reported a protest at the Bank building in Clearwater. "I was saddened to see the reaction of the Clearwater Police Department. At one point, a Scientologist jammed his forehead into my camera and was pressing on the camera lens. I asked him to stop touching the camera. When I got a chance I went over to the team of police and spoke to a Sgt. and asked him if he could just ask the Scientologists not to touch the cameras or the people picketing. He told me 'I was watching the whole thing. Looks like you were blocking the sidewalk and not permitting them to pass.' All I expected and felt was reasonable was to have an officer say 'Please don't touch one another. Thank you for your cooperation.' When a large chunk of the Clearwater police force is on the Scientology payroll, this appears to be an unreasonable request. "Tonight 7 of us picketed the bank building in Clearwater. As usually happens now, about 10 minutes after we started our handlers appeared. The general tone was mild confrontation by the Scientologists. The main points this time were that we are in tax trouble, that Jesse is a criminal and we should be doing something about that, and the ever present 'how much do you make?' Every time now I try to say that I'm willing to have a conversation but not willing to simply take hammering from abusive people. So one woman and I had a reasonably nice conversation. Doyle and I were doing ok when some short guy with a crew cut came and talked to Doyle, and Doyle simply left in mid-conversation! I saw the same guy go over to Hans so I told Hans 'you're about to be told to leave' which he denied. But sure enough all the rest of our handlers then left too. "Ian Schillington was trying to argue that the Scientologists were perfectly within their rights to act like they did at the Mad Picket because they were upset at what we were doing. He wasn't impressed by my question of what Salvation Army members would do if they were picketed." Message-ID: 8n7v65$8b$1@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net Message-ID: 09ohpsc6qmn1ut76rn72u5ma5rkektsbq0@4ax.com Message-ID: g57jpssk3m3fkoq9obqjcfvqvhtj2h5sbd@4ax.com Message-ID: 8ndh24$pu6$3@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net Message-ID: 8nisn5$nqf$1@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net Message-ID: 399ca82a.0@news2.lightlink.com Message-ID: 399EB5F0.9C7B467C@pacbell.net Message-ID: kb0upskkse6bffcisb69amqb8sek53vmlb@4ax.com Message-ID: 399f5293.0@news2.lightlink.com Message-ID: 399f84c2.55114344@news.primenet.com Message-ID: 8nnd9e$4sm$1@nnrp1.deja.com

Scotland

The Scotland Daily Record reported on August 15th that Scientology is launching a recruitment drive in Scotland. Cult to launch drive for Scots. The controversial Church of Scientology has launched a recruitment drive in Scotland. Scientology spokesman Graeme Wilson said a one-week information exhibition would include programmes to help solve Scots crime and drugs problems." From The Herald on August 15th: "The world's fastest-growing religious movement yesterday launched a major recruitment drive in Scotland with claims it has effective solutions to the country's crime and drugs problem. The Church of Scientology launched the drive with a week-long public exhibition. A freephone hot-line has also been set up by the church for people looking to find out more. The church's leaders yesterday admitted they hoped the Edinburgh-based exhibition would lead to Scientology spreading around Scotland. They also claim they can solve the country's crime and drugs problems. "A spokeswoman for the Cult Information Centre said: 'We receive a tremendous number of calls from people who are very distressed after a loved one has become involved with the organisation.'" Message-ID: 8naonl$a84$1@nnrp1.deja.com Message-ID: bqknpscr5ovsl5saumjc23t19eqg19fn0n@news.xs4all.nl

Mike McClaughry

The Spokane Spokesman-Review reported on August 16th on the lawsuit by former Scientologist Mike McClaughry against his former employer. "McClaughry worked in the 'church intelligence unit.' They both climbed to high ranks within the church. The Post Falls man claims he was ousted from the Church of Scientology because he talked about changes he discovered in the religion's scripture. Then he was asked to leave his job at a Spokane office managed by Scientologists, he said. McClaughry is suing a Spokane company in U.S. District Court for alleged violations of the Civil Rights Act, claiming he was fired for his religious beliefs. The office manager said McClaughry resigned. "In the suit, McClaughry claims that his former employer, an insurance adjustment firm called David Morse & Associates, is managed by members of the Church of Scientology. The office manager said some Scientologists work at the company, but religion does not affect the office. "McClaughry said he was excommunicated when he told other members that sacred texts had been altered. McClaughry said Scientologists are not allowed to associate with former members. 'The supervisor basically said, 'You realize once you're expelled (from the church), I can't deal with you. You have to go find another job,'' said McClaughry's lawyer, Steven Crumb. 'I guess that's as good as someone saying you're fired,' Crumb said. "Pat Dougherty, Spokane and Seattle office manager for David Morse & Associates, said the charges are unfounded. 'He thinks that we fired him because of his problems with the church. We didn't. He resigned. I didn't fire him, period,' said Dougherty, a Scientologist. 'There are Scientology members who work at David Morse. We are not a Scientology company. There are non-Scientologists that work for us also.' "During an interview, McClaughry shared a copy of a 12-page document detailing the rules for conducting an audit, a mental health procedure devised by Hubbard, the church founder. A more recent set of rules, rewritten after Hubbard's death in 1986, is only five pages, McClaughry said. Under the rewritten rules, Scientologists who reach the upper levels of the church must continue to be 'sec checked,' whereas they could be exempted under the original document, McClaughry said. Changing church guidelines is a 'cardinal sin,' and there are more, he said. "McClaughry still has the church document that officially expelled him in January, a 'suppressive person declare,' as it's called. It spells out 10 of his violations, including 'engaging in malicious rumormongering to destroy the authority or repute of higher officers' and 'mutiny.'" Message-ID: 8ngpbc$m8k@netaxs.com

Susan Morgan

Mike Gormez posted an update on the case of Susan Morgan, who unsuccessfully sued her former employer, Dr. Carlsten, when he tried to turn the dental office into a Scientology mission. Susan was in court to see if she would have to pay his legal expenses. "Susan went to court with only her brother as support - no lawyer. She met her former employer's attorney, Sandra Lanni, and they negotiated a payment schedule. She'll have to pay him $25 a month for the next 8 years. Fortunately Susan did not have to see the good doctor himself, just his hired hand." Message-ID: 399e09a0.2198145@news.a2000.nl

Ursula Caberta

Tagesanzeiger Zurich published an article on August 11th on the trip to Clearwater, Florida by Ursula Caberta. "Ursula Caberta, Director of the Hamburg Agencies' Work Group on Scientology, did not believe her eyes and ears when she arrived at the airport in Tampa, Florida. About 50 Scientologists were shouting 'Nazi go home' at her, as proved by video tape recordings. The Hubbard adherents were also holding up signs in the air which said the same thing. 'How the Scientologists learned of my arrival in Florida is a mystery to me.' Florida is the location of an international Scientology headquarters. "'They followed every move I made,' said Caberta of the Hamburg SPD administration, who is involved with Scientology as a result of her office. Nevertheless she still met with American Scientology critics. The Scientologists' attorneys took their revenge with an operation of a curious kind. The attorneys had managed to motivate a judge to order an immediate deposition. 'It was a five-hour hearing like the Stasi used to have,' stated Caberta. A German Scientology attorney had traveled from Munich for the occasion. "The operation was rounded out with a lawsuit for damages from a Scientology-affiliated businessman who demanded 75,000 dollars. The businessman claimed Caberta ruined a major contract for him with her information work. 'It has become painfully clear to me why the Scientologists are able to operate unhindered in the USA,' said Caberta, 'They can take care of any critic they want by using these court and legal proceedings.' "'Unbelievable what they can do in the USA with tourists,' she said. 'And of all countries, this is the one which regularly accuses Germany of violating human rights because we dare to talk about Scientologists.' She lost her faith in the American legal system. "Juerg Stettler, spokesman from Scientology, defended Scientology's action by saying that Caberta held a press conference and wanted to organize a demonstration in front of the Scientology buildings. He said that Caberta had provoked the reaction, the more so since various Scientologists had taken refuge from her in the USA. Those people, he said, were allergic to Caberta and would consider her now becoming active there as impudence." Message-ID: Pine.LNX.3.96.1000815174438.117A-100000@darkstar.zippy


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