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An example of the people writing to me. Name and identy removed to protect the guilty.

From: [NAME REMOVED]
To: ahl@xenu.net
Subject: Bull.
Date: 30.04.2008

How can you say some of these things. How do you know if all the bullshit you've said is true, ANY of it? NO. Don't delete his email, please reply and tell me. You are just trying to ruin something sane and something that is helping out the world. People like you are just trying to suppress it. its no working dumbass.
Your a doochbag Andreas.
P.S You Suck.

From: ahl@xenu.net
To: [NAME REMOVED]
Subject: Re: Bull.
Date: 30.04.2008

Dear [NAME REMOVED],

Please, I ask you to find all of my lies. Please tear my site apart. I even promise you that I will host your damaging report on my site for all to see! I expect it will be a simple task for you as it is, according to you, all bs. I seek the truth, whatever it may be.

While I trust that you are truthful if you tell me that Scientology and/or CoS has been good for you, I also have to give the same trust to all the other individuals who tell very different stories And I happen to know a lot.

I am looking forward to your reply.

Take care.

Best wishes,
Andreas
www.clambake.org
spirous.blogspot.com

From: [NAME REMOVED]
To: ahl@xenu.net
Subject: Re: Bull.
Date: 01.05.2008

where do u get your sources? you see, when lots of people are trying to see what Scientology TRUTHFULLY is, they come across these bullshit sites. then they think its all a money scam.

From: ahl@xenu.net
To: [NAME REMOVED]
Subject: Re: Bull.
Date: 01.05.2008

[NAME REMOVED],

[NAME REMOVED] wrote, On 01.05.2008 10:11:
> where do u get your sources? you see, when lots of people are
> trying to see what Scientology TRUTHFULLY is, they come across
> these bullshit sites. then they think its all a money scam.

By error I assumed you had actually read my site since you so boldly claim it is all bull. Obviously you have not as you are unaware that the origin of the information is often documented on the site. Since you haven't actually read my site, why should I care about your condemnation of it? You are making generalizations about something you don't know anything about...

Please identify the errors on my site, please! I'll host it and share it with the world! This is your greatest chance to make a difference, show everybody my errors! Why would you pass up such an opportunity!?

Take care.

Best wishes,
Andreas Heldal-Lund # http://spirous.blogspot.com/ # xenu.net
Ph: +47 8800 6666 # Addr: Postboks 131, N-4098 Tananger, Norway
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If anyone can show me, and prove to me, that I am wrong in
thought or deed, I will gladly change. I seek the truth, which
never yet hurt anybody. It is only persistence in self-delusion
and ignorance which does harm.
------------------------------------------[Marcus Aurelius]----

From: [NAME REMOVED]
To: ahl@xenu.net
Subject: Re: Bull.
Date: 02.05.2008

I'm making generalizations about something i dont know???
your speaking for your self.

From: ahl@xenu.net
To: [NAME REMOVED]
Subject: Re: Bull.
Date: 02.05.2008

[NAME REMOVED], [NAME REMOVED] wrote, On 02.05.2008 12:20:
> I'm making generalizations about something i dont know???
> your speaking for your self.

But [NAME REMOVED], you're making broad claims about something you haven't even investigated properly (my site). Now you repeatedly refuse to back them up with examples or documentation - what is that if not making generalizations? I don't want you to look stupid here, I honestly want to understand your argument. But first you have to make one!

Where are the errors you write about? Why do you ask questions about things you should know if you knew what you were talking about?

Please read what I have written to you and try to systematically work your way through it by replying properly to every issue. You brought this on, please show me you have a valid case and that you know how to communicate. I honestly don't need another example of people trying to defend CoS but aren't able to even the simplest form of communication. Please show me you are able.

Take care.

Best wishes,
Andreas Heldal-Lund # http://spirous.blogspot.com/ # www.xenu.net
Phone: +47 88 00 66 66 # Address: Postboks 131, N-4098 Tananger, Norway
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"Each of us does what we can do. Our obligation is to do it as well as
we can, with as much grace, dignity, integrity and honor our egos can
tolerate."
---------------------------------------------[Robert Vaughn Young]-----

From: [NAME REMOVED]
To: ahl@xenu.net
Subject: Re: Bull.
Date: 03.05.2008

i can't be bothered talking to you anymore.

From: ahl@xenu.net
To: [NAME REMOVED]
Subject: Re: Bull.
Date: 03.05.2008

[NAME REMOVED],

Is that what you call communication - chickening out when you can't answer? What does that tell about you and whatever cause you profess?

You wrote to me first and begged me to reply (!), you claimed everything on my site was BS. But you never managed to point out one wrong claim there. Did you not understand that I would reply, did you not foresee that I might be able to communicate? Now you look like the fool and it is not my doing, and definitely not my wish. I honestly wanted to hear your side of the story, I wanted you to show me where I was wrong. Then you just bail out because you are unable to reply to the simplest questions? Again, what does that tell YOU and the rest of the world about you and your abilities - or more correct the lack thereof?

What was, in your mind, the goal and intention when you sent your first e-mail to me? That I would kneel to you without protest? Did you really expect me to not reply? Did you expect to meet an evil person unable to communicate?

I am saddened to learn that you live up to the standard of CoS defenders, after 12 years none of them have been able to communicate their case. All chicken out when I reply - how come? Were none prepared, didn't ANY of them predict what I would reply (and I've talked to people trained at the ABSOLUTE TOP in CoS!!!), and didn't even one of them actually read and study what they so easily judged? Is that a sign of a skilled and able group?

Of course not, this constant lack of skill makes the real world laugh and shake their head at Scientologists and CoS. Is that what you want?

I care for you and I hope you bother to read some of this. I don't want you to agree with me, you should be skeptical to any claims presented to you. I would however appreciate a proper communication, maybe learn to understand a little better where you come from. I'm not in this to change you, only you can do that. But I am happy to be your friend, since that is something we are beyond our differences.

Take care.

Best wishes,
Andreas Heldal-Lund # http://spirous.blogspot.com/ # xenu.net
Ph: +47 8800 6666 # Addr: Postboks 131, N-4098 Tananger, Norway
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I do not believe there is a meaning of life,
but I find it meaningful to live.
-----------------------------[Levi Fragell, President IHEU]----

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