X-Sender: heldal@online.no Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 02:32:18 +0200 To: Helena Kobrin From: Andreas Heldal-Lund Subject: Re: Unauthorized use of copyrighted material Cc: kvigelan@sn.no You don't get it! E-mail isn't worth the electrons it's written with? Anybody on this planet having an Internet connection could fake this mail. Obviousely I can't take this very seriously. This must be a joke, and the proof of that is that I have asked you several times to verify your identity and claims in proper manner. You have not done so, even though I gave you six months to do it! I also observe that you ignore my request to contact my lawyer if you wish any future communication. It is my understanding that if I were in the United States, you would be forbidden to contact me directly after I had informed you that I have an attorney. I plan on mentioning your weird ways of communicating legal threats if you really are a lawyer to my attorney. At 16:35 03.05.97 -0700, you wrote: > > >Dear Mr. Heldal-Lund, > > You have posted the NOTs materials to the alt.religion.scientology >newsgroup. As you are well aware, and as the postings themselves reflect >by way of copyrighted notices, those works are copyrighted works. My >client, Religious Technology Center, holds the exclusive license to >those copyrights. I've replied to postings already on the newsgroup and I bet you find that appalling. I feel I have to inform you that this is pretty usual on newsgroups. You should try it one day, as we are all waiting for your views. Besides, it's well known on the Net that when attorney Milgrim had the opportunity to prove that CoS owned NOTS 34, he couldn't do it. What do you think is going to happen when we get into a Norwegian court of law, where your legal tomfoolery will not work? > I therefore demand that you cease all such postings and that you cancel >any that you have already made. Your flouting of the law and of my >client's rights will not be tolerated. Demand? Who do you think you are and what do you want? Certainly not to make me stop anything I do, if you did and you were a lawyer you would do it correctly. If your alleged employer wanted me to stop they would have contacted me. I'm a reasonable guy, I'm always willing to listen to people telling me I'm wrong. Neither RTC or CoS seems to want to tell me anything. Get a grip on reality, I'm in this fight to put an end to people getting hurt for life, and I will not stop because some unverifiable lady from USA sends me e-mail telling me I have to stop. > You will be receiving further communication on this from our Norwegian >colleague. Good, it's about time you made them do so. If you want a lawsuit in Norway you have to sue me first. As I told you before; I'm not afraid to stand up for what I do. Let's see what the media, my fellow Norwegians, other people on the net, the police and a Norwegian judge have to say about this whole mess. I know exactly what I will bring to court--do you? I hope I have the guts to fight for others to the day I die. If I don't dare to stand up and protest against unjustice, I will not have a life myself. What I see in the Church of Scientology really scares me very much. I do not fear what will happen to me, but what will happen to the members of this cult when they have no money left or find out they have been tricked. If the CoS didn't lie about themselves, there would be no need to show the world what the truth was. The CoS brought this on themselves, and the fall is going to be really hard when it comes. You just didn't get yourself another Zenon on your hands, you got ME! And that's for Lisa and all the others, and for Roland being hit today. No revenge though, just the worst CoS ever have faced: THE TRUTH. Regards, Andreas ----------------------------------------------------------- OPERATION CLAMBAKE --> http://home.sol.no/heldal/CoS/ STOP THE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY! ACT NOW!!!!!! --S---p---r---e---a---d------T---h---e------W---o---r---d--